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 Two brothers embark on a journey of the mysteries  of  the past. No, that's actually kind of funny.  should have mom do it.  Welcome to the new home. Ew.  Three multiple takes on all. Good luck, Edmund. Welcome to Duality Check, the podcast where two brothers embark on a journey through the realms of scientific inquiry, the mysteries of the past, and the uncharted frontiers of spirituality.  Join us as we explore the wonders of our world and beyond, all while embracing the roles of curious bystanders  rather than experts.  Together, we'll unravel the tapestry of existence,  letting the dichotomies of knowledge and wonder  get ready to question, ponder, and delve into the dualities that shape our understanding of reality.  on Duality Check. Check, check, check, check, check, check, check, check, um Welcome to episode 100, finally. It's totally not episode 101. last one, 99.5. Yeah. Don't do the math. It checks out. So yeah, we did 100 already. We had some technical issues, but we're back. And we actually have some special guests on top of our special guests. from last time. Our mom and dad have decided to join us for the beginning here at the very least.  And it's actually their 45th  wedding anniversary.  Congratulations, parents.  Our parents are early kissing. Please don't them. Look how wide it is now. We got real cuddled up because our camera was not showing how wide it is. Well, they're not going to see the camera this episode anyway. That's true. But now I am. You can edit this, right? We can edit whatever Yeah, but it's going to be pretty  live, right?  Yeah. You can eat the popcorn if you want to eat the popcorn. It's OK to eat the Or you can stop eating the popcorn and give everybody's name, everybody's nickname.  Oh, OK. For the a drink. Oldest, youngest. Honestly, maybe swallow the popcorn first. Yeah, definitely. Just for the viewers. We learned that from you when we were growing up to swallow You learned not to when you talk with your mouth full? Yes. Yes, actually. OK. All here we go. I'm gonna give let's just put the mic first child or oldest daughter Amy her name is Amy P pumpkin pie.  I made these all up cuz that's just what I do  And my wife I call her sweet Gail and she goes I'm not sweet  Sweet Gail, she's like oh And then going over here on the end, Dean, you guys all know Dean.  Dean is Dean the Bean, Dean or Beaner.  And then.  Deanie Weenie. Beth. our third child, the middle child.  Second daughter. The favorite.  Literally the favorite in her, in his home. These guys can talk about that when we're gone. I think Beth did that, John. Beth definitely did that. This  is my favorite nickname of all the kids. Oh, of course. course. uh It's itsky bitsky bitters. And then our other two he forgot. No.  Oh, that was good. That's when the family was supposed to end. Well, actually, yeah, we had a first family, was Amy and Dean, and they were the... And then we had a second family, the big kids. The big kids. And then there was a gap of how many years? Three years, right? four years. Almost four years. And then... And then my wife forced me to have more children. Yeah. Sure, sure,  Oh, gross. Anyway, next is John, our fourth  child, our second son. Least favorite.  We don't believe that, but he wants to believe that. So that's fine.  And he's going to be married in a couple of months. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, his nickname is  Ready for this one?  Jonathan, the bonnest and the babest and the sweetest and the cutest.  That sounds like you're his favorite. So it kind sounds like he's the favorite, right? Or dad was just drawing. Yeah. we're making up syllables.  Or I was just. they're on syllable count, that's at least 50. Yeah. That's just how long it took for him to get his temper. control before he talked to you. That was dad taking his little time out before John That is true. He was an handful. John was an handful. can see John as a toddler just flipping around. He was the one that's like a wrestler. He was doing like... He was integer. What do you mean We were both like that. Yeah, but made him like that. came first. You came first. You me that. I you how to have a good time in life. You're That's Now Drew. So then Drew, our youngest son. Maybe he's the favorite. Hold on.  Ready?  Derubist, deru,  der sweetest.  Derbu.  Derubist,  deru, der sweetest derbu.  I think that's because he knew you were the last.  Maybe. No, I did that when the scissors came out and the doctor was holding them. that was something else. He was born after you had the Yeah, but that didn't mean he was last. Oh yeah. Wait, what? Wait, hold on. News tellers? You got the vasectomy before mom had Drew. I don't know that that's true. That is true. Wait, I think it was as you guys remember, this is going out to the internet, That's all right. right. it's true. Keep in mind, whatever is shared is public. Well, you can edit it. We'll just put a big leaf over your mouth and just keep you silent this whole time. Anyway, for whatever reason, was our last. They had all they needed now. These five children are the most amazing people that, and yeah, I'm biased, of course, but. I am too. I couldn't love them well. We couldn't love Our family feels very special. Yeah, very. anniversary. Happy anniversary. Yeah, it's so special. It was pointed out to me that it's a very interesting coincidence that our last podcast didn't work out and now we're here on your 45th anniversary altogether. Actually, this is today. It's pretty special. That's pretty amazing. Do you guys want to say anything about the day you got married or anything special you remember or what your thoughts are?  for like your family or like what you guys wanted?  That's a lot. Yeah, we ended up  getting married in Reno  because we wanted to get married and we didn't want a big wedding because, yeah, I'd been married before but only for like a year. had a big wedding and cost a lot of money. I wasn't there of course because I didn't know it.  This is all hearsay. I don't know that that actually happened. I think she was just cheap. But you're not easy. Oh my God! Dad, Sorry. He's got ear chips. He just goes. Anyway, we got married and I literally started crying during the wedding because I was so happy.  So we got engaged in February. was just after  Valentine's Day. We were going to get married the next year  for Valentine's Day.  We had told our families and they were,  my sister was going to be my maid of honor. She was in Europe for the year. And  then we started, I started calling around to make arrangements  and realized just how expensive this was going to be. And said to him one day,  why don't we just go to Reno and get married and he's like, okay, I'm fine with that. So we called our family, our parents and our siblings. So we're getting married next weekend if you'd to be there. And that's how it happened. Who came out? My mom and dad. My mom and. My brothers were there and my best friend.  Amy's  godfather was I figured  it Amy who there. If you ask me, if you me. was not. oh She was in your heart. was. And we got married.  And I remember buying my suit  with,  I  actually was in college just finishing.  Anyway, I had some student loan money. Oh, nice. I just used that to buy a Johnny Carson suit. If you watch old Johnny Carson movies, it was the suit. It actually said that at Sears. Really? At Johnny Carson's. At Sears? At Sears. you get a washing machine too? Yeah. That's was a pretty good idea though. We got our wedding rings. Yeah. The rest is future.  Literally 45 years we've been together.  Grandkids.  Which of these is most like what you wore? Johnny Clarke's is on the left. Were you wearing beige? People see that was beige. It beige. It might  have been blue. I'm trying to remember my graduation scene. Was it the same super graduation? was very similar. It wasn't the same one. Okay, I thought you did a two for one on that one. Did it have pinstripes? No, wasn't pinstripes. It kind of like the one on the bottom right there from the... Right there? Yeah, maybe kind of similar to that. Oh, okay. I still remember the most Because it made his eyes pop. Yeah. think the beige one was my graduation from high school. It was beige. That's why I wear blue too, Dad.  And anyway,  my parents had not met him yet. so  they met him the day we got married and they fell in love with him because  as he was walking down the aisle, he just, as I was walking down the aisle, he just started crying, just like in control of the point. And my mom and dad just like,  that's it.  He's right now. I am. It's making me cry. I'm crazy. there you go. 45 years. Congratulations. It's all beautiful children. Thank you. Congrats and thank you for everything. Thanks for life. was the least we could do.  Thank you for your lives and what you've enriched us too. Yeah, these are being good people. Ultimately, wonderful adults. I think our goal in raising kids,  just  my goal anyway. Yeah, on.  We just  wanted to raise good people. People who care about other people  and uh just want to  bring light to the world.  There's something special about this family too because I don't know I've met a lot of families in my days and there's something Not trying to brag about our family or anything, but there's a really close connection and community that we have that I think is pretty unique. And I love it. And a lot of our friends have noticed it too, anytime they come And have expressed it to us too. Which is... It's cool to hear, but. And that doesn't happen by accident, though, just to give you guys credit. Right. Like you were sending us and like there is a piece of that that's beautiful because you guys, I think, raised us to take ownership of who we are and who we choose to become. So you're by you guys saying thank you for us becoming good people. That's obviously a reflection of how you raised us like autonomy. Right. Like choose who you want to be. But obviously, like. Your  prime example is who gave you life and who feeds you.  you guys were that.  it's very  easy  to  have the best opportunity to turn into something that's  shining a light on the world, if that was your example.  Full credit to you guys.  Yeah, and always feeling like we had somewhere to go no matter how life went, no matter how hard things got, we always felt like we had somewhere to turn to. We always felt like we had.  Not even had, we still did. We did. did. did. This is still the hub.  It's literally always been the hub and it always will be. For our friends too, a lot of our friends came to our house to escape whatever it is that they were going on, had going on in their lives,  you know, and they saw  the love that we all  were just  brought up like there was no questions. There was just  love and.  You guys stocked up. You know, it felt like you as much as you stock the family, the fridge just for five, you knew at some point you had to have a little lecture because our friends are coming over and they were going to. We wanted to eat. had to buy it. You and your friends. I know we always, every one of us always had a friend. Oh, think we all had. But that was a conversation we had when you guys were really young. wanted you to be at our house. We wanted to know who your friends were. We wanted to know  who was influencing our kids.  So I think that also played a big part. Yeah. Yeah. And you guys went through the typical  phases and different things that,  you know, we won't go into all those stories, but I remember feeling frustrated with why is my child doing this or that way? Mostly Amy, right? Why does my own son go  into it? you realize at the  Now you're like, wait a minute, why are you saying these things or acting this way or doing these things? But there's other influences outside of your own home. And it's natural, everybody experiments with doing what their peers are doing. Or even acting a certain way or saying certain things. It's just challenges. Some families, they would just say, well, you can't stay in my house, you're 14 years old. to many of your friends. I don't care, you're 14, you have to move out, because you can't live here like that if you're going be like that. So we never certainly would. And you always took people in too. There was multiple people who multiple times where people didn't have a place to stay and you let them live with us temporarily, which was pretty amazing. I know my friend Dom, he lived with us for a couple of months. You is no right way or wrong way. We just did our way. It's not like to our home or anything like that. We had no preconceived plan.  Really, it's just we've been and Just gripping and ripping.  I think what  it comes down to is like,  a lot of people talk about the idea of unconditional love, but like,  what does that actually mean? And like, as hard as it is actually say it, like we actually have it. Like there's  nothing that any one of us  really could do  that when  we know that  we have six people that love us no matter what that we can go to. And that's like real,  Yeah. But it's also like special. Right.   Maybe I'm taking this way too far, but that unconditional love is like incredible, but it's also like everybody  stepping up and like wanting to do good. Also, like I feel like calls you to an expectation in life to like  live out like the better version of what you can choose.  you know, you don't live in isolation, you have other people that that depend upon you. Even if it's in the back of your mind, you know  that you have four siblings.  Yeah. Depend upon you. have parents who depend upon you. Yeah.  It does bring a bit of responsibility to you. I agree with that notion because I think. Yeah. Because you have to choose to make this relationship work. Yes, every day it's a choice. Just like our marriage, every single day we choose we are going to stay in this relationship. Any relationship is like that. If you want to stay close to your friends, you have to make an effort to stay close to your friends. If you want to stay close to your  kids and your siblings and your parents, you have to make that conscious choice.  And that,  like you were saying before, em that's kind of what I think was kind of gained  in our childhood and being so close in childhood too, like we annoyed each other like any brothers and sisters would.  But we always knew.  Me  and  John could be annoying all day and then we can go curl up in Beth's bed and just like hang out and talk and like have a great time. know, like there was no like whatever. Like me and Amy had a great relationship in different parts of our  growing up and  we each had different moments where we were super close with another sibling, you know?  And it just,  it created this bond  that is forever unbreakable, I think, you know? It'd be quite different to be the only child. Oh yeah. Dude, can't imagine. I don't even know. I couldn't even fathom it. I literally cannot even comprehend what that would There's nothing wrong with that. No, no, no. Of course not. It's just I can't understand what that would be like or what it would feel like. People who share their experience as an only child, it's so far removed from what my experience has been. Like I hear you and like I got to take your word for it, you know, but I like, I cannot empathize by any stretch of the It was a, it was a, it was a choice too. Like when I had my first son,  like I couldn't even think about stopping at that. Like it was like,  I, got at least one more. Like they need to have somebody that they grow up with  from the moment their  brain is developing until they're adults. Like they got to have somebody that they can fall back on,  you know, it is a, it's a relationship that they're going to have forever, you know.  Dude. Anyway, to our five children, to the five. Cheers! To OG Seven! To OG Seven! To To OG OG To OG OG To OG OG To OG To To To OG To OG OG Happy anniversary. Happy anniversary. To Mr. and Mrs. Have you shared our last name? Glover. To Mr. and Mrs. Glover. I don't think you're to share that. John's going to figure out eventually. Wyatt labels everything. Mrs. Glover. remind you what your last name is. I'll tell the efficient. Yeah. In you forgot. your last names will be. All right, think we are going to exit. you going to exit? come. Preach into your We're number six. I have a little brother. She says we're going to go baby number six. We're going to try. You asked for both of us do that, bro. He said it's worth a try! Help! Oh my goodness. Oh my gosh. Did you just cry for help? She did! She did! Wow, you believe in great true art with your life right to the top. Do you have to play the video of this? is hilarious. We can always play it for you guys. It's for us. It's for us. Posterity, John. He's gonna knock over the... Oh, he's got it. Look him. He's nimble. He's nimble like cat. Thanks, Mom and Dad. That was fun. Love you guys. Careful going downstairs, please. Yeah, seriously. Seriously. Be careful. Love you. Yeah. Yeah, we'll come around and we'll come get you. Country roads. me home. Yeah, might be. Check my room. Check the roof. Who knows? Who knows? Check the pool. We don't even have a pool. Check the pool. Oh man. I think we can spread out a little bit, Yeah, we can spread out a little bit. Well, that was fun. So yeah, this is obviously going to be a little different of a podcast. Keep the transition in there. Our listeners are used to, but this is fun. Yeah. Yeah. That was awesome having them. Very fun. Start the podcast.  joined us.  Me too.  So what's up guys?  lot  of energy just left the I know. Dude, I know. Oh my gosh.  They got a lot of energy.  It didn't transfer to us apparently. I know, we're all tired and they're like uh partying.  Yeah. They can go.  Then he'll sleep for 12 hours. They're funny. Can you say we want to? We can say we had another podcast.  We already did. We already did. Oh, and did you say that we talked a lot about education last time? We talked about- We didn't actually talk about that, yeah. The heart, that whole thing. You never sent me that video, by the way. Did you ask her to? Sure did. Well. If we had the recording- You could literally go through that. You could hear him say- say- him You You You You could You You could say- You say- could literally say- could literally  I got some alien stuff. uh We could always  do a quick break.  We could do alien stuff. And then come back. Okay. Do you want to do that? Let's take a quick break. Yeah. Come back.  I mean, do that. All right. See you all in a little bit. We're going to take a quick break on this episode and then we'll be right back. We're going to take a break and we'll be back. That's why John's not included in the podcast. What do you mean? He was a user. So go. Comments that are when we come back, it's super like soulful and like sultry. Like this call had with this person. Here's the I mean, the doctors are doing it in the doctor's office now. Yeah, they just have a I listen to the whole thing. They don't do anything. And then it automatically does the filing and the record Oh, it's definitely gonna be a thing. If it's not already. The boxes are already. No, but I mean like. Welcome back. Fully integrated. We should all say it together. Yeah, we should. Okay, we're not back yet. Okay. Wait, what are we gonna talk about? Does anyone have a topic? Let's just get it. Let's just grab an array. I have a question. Okay. For the group? On When we're on the podcast. I like it. Um,  the music's playing right now. Yeah, we're coming out of break, but it's already... Are we playing the classic Stinginator? Is it muted? It's not muted, is it? No, it's just not Oh,  the mic's muted. You  guys can do one, two, three... just  want to make sure it's being recorded. We'll do a...  Welcome. So it's on the floor, okay? I'll follow your bounce. Not rock, paper, scissors, but no, we are doing shoot. We're not doing rock, paper, scissors, we're doing rock, paper, scissors, shoot. I also don't like it, but that is, it turns out that's how the world does it. Wait, how do you do it? No, that's how the next generation of rock, paper, We should start and then have this call to you. Okay. How much time? We got a minute and 40 seconds till we start. Finish. How 40 seconds? finish? Yeah, go. Like, how do you do it? We've all done rock, paper, scissors. No. scissors. No. You did shoot. You've done shoot? For sure. Forever? No. Always. No, you have not done No, you haven't. That's just not true. In my memory, it's always been shoot. Rock, paper, scissors. Rough. scissors. You land on scissors. And part of the psychology of the game is that you're saying scissors, but you're not. Like you're hoping that they're going to do scissors. Just psychologically. Yeah, because they're saying scissors. So yeah, like the most likely scenario when you play somebody who just doesn't play all the time or even think about it. Is there going to go scissors because I hear that? Yeah, so you're going to see. Yeah, exactly. You're going to win. So that's the right way to play. Yeah. Yeah. It's a psychological test. And they took that out of the game. Right. So then it just turns into a like a statistic thing. Yeah, it just turns 50, which is bullshit. It's not the game. Yeah. I mean, it does make it more. I know that we're talking about. I know, but. That removes intellect from Sure. Yeah. And dominance. Yeah, dominance,  dude. Dominance.  There's actually studies  showing what women will play versus men. then if you know that, then you can  do a little guess of what that person's Yeah,  I'm sure there's still some psychological...  But you've to know the person.  Yeah, you have to have a little bit of knowledge about them. actually you can use that, the percentage is quite... Like you can actually use that because you don't know them. This is a guy, he's probably in it for a rock. 30 seconds just you guys We'll just keep ripping. So we can just start? Yeah, I can just include what we've done. Oh really, you have it being recorded right now? There's no reason not to, that's a power point. already recorded. Heck yeah. I think that people need to hear that. For posterity, right? For posterity. For posterity. I love you guys. I love you. You guys are awesome. This is fun. I think we should do something like this once a month. Or as often as we think we can, but... If we shoot for once a month, it's probably going to happen quarterly. I think quarterly is... Quarterly is possible. Maybe doable or doable like actually might line up with like times we're already getting together. Yeah, because we have like periods where it's like we're all together all the time. Sometimes we're. Yeah. Oh, is birthdays. But like they're a little clumped. you get to that's a good point. What are the months? Yeah, I was just thinking that like, is there a time period that we kind of go? know. I guess I would say late spring or in through summer. We have breaks early summer  and then we don't have much until like the end of the year. May  and June are Mother's Day, Father's Day. True. We had Easter and April. That's what I mean. So from like Father's Day to Chris, yeah, there's like a good month and a half. Then after that, after Chris's birthday? And then mom's birthday is August. then I don't think there's much August, September until October or birthday. that might be the... Birthdays and then it's just holidays. Like straight up, right? Like it feels like birthdays and then everything else. And then you wake up one day and it's March. is what it feels like. So quarterly feels like you can have that. So your children's birthdays in those? Yeah, please. you guys do that? Nine months, John. Statistically speaking, anything could happen. That's not true. On the wedding night. We are having days away. Wait, so that would be... I plan on breaking all the rules. Breaking all the records? This is in March. Oh, this is in March. Yeah. No, I'm just kidding. She'll be listening in next week, actually on Tuesday. Probably next week. She'll know if I'm breaking the rules. Hopefully she knows. Oh, no. Well, we are back, y'all. We took a little break, and we're back. I don't know if we knew we were back, but We're back. Wait, what are we saying? Welcome back? Oh, ready? Wait. Welcome back. Welcome back. Wait. back. get it  before. Are ready? All right, you  three go. Wait. No, all of us.  One,  two, three.  Welcome back. Beth didn't speak. Beth didn't speak. She  was laughing. She started laughing before she could even speak. Wait, did you feel weird being that close to me?  We got her doing laughs. oh Sorry.  Don't apologize. Welcome back. There we go.  Oh,  All right, Beth. Yeah. You have a question. OK. um Yeah.  Do you guys  believe that we landed on the moon?  Oh, hell yeah. I like this topic. This is a fun I like this topic.  I think you could go either way. That's what I feel. I think  as the general public, in those days, it would be so easy to fake some sort of really high tech technology to the masses when  media was very limited. You had black and white TVs  and you had radio and you were shown things and you're shown things months if not weeks later.  The argument being  people wouldn't have a template or like some sort of experience of how those things should go.  So  whatever you're told about like whatever maybe you just have to take it on faith. Yeah right. You're just like oh I guess that's how technology works or whatever.  So you're taking it on faith because there's video.  There's recordings, there's the stories and the history books. So from your perspective, it's like, who's one taking it on faith?  Like, yeah. No, it's a hard thing to. It's a hard thing to suss out.  Can I  real quick? So your thoughts on it? You guys,  you guys did. I've done talked about this, like ad nauseam. Like a lot, right? Yeah. That's what a nausea means. Yes. At length. Yeah, at length.  I threw that in for posterity. All the big words. He really wants to sound smart. Yes.  Anyway. uh The  competition is strong.  this one. I'm the only left out brother on Pointe. So I got to make a showing right now. uh Anyway. You've been on the podcast before, John.  Yeah,  I was just there. first.  was just there. Yeah, but we've talked about this shit for all our lives. Oh yeah,  no, for sure.  I think,  because  at some point you guys talked about  somebody  who  was discussing like the rock, um like the shadows and like the directions of the shadows or whatever. Yep.  And then somewhat recently, and this is horrible, like, because I don't have any, like, like anywhere to cite it. But I did see somebody. It was the main guy who was recently on. What's it's not Joe Rogan, but that other podcast where the guys like Jones, Jones, Michael, too, Danny Jones, and he has the main that like that that one guy, he's an astronaut. He was a. Yes, the astronaut and the other guy who's like the skeptic. Sabrell. Bart Sabrell. That's the name I was searching for it in my head. Yeah. So he's an anti-moonsky guy. Yeah, he has this whole presentation about why we didn't land on the moon. And how it was like, And how the whole thing was faked. One of his points that felt very compelling to me was the shadows. But then  somebody responded to having seen that episode and like  is  also like a  professional  lighting and cinematographer person.  And they like pretty easily  showed that that can happen.  Like stages with well with  the technology that they claim to use.  And I gave an example of it.  But the problem is like, I'm not an expert in any of that. like the degree that I would have to do my own research to be able to like tell who is the most viable source of information. Yeah. And incredible. It's like so complicated that we all as people watching it on the outside, like  Kind of have to take it on  certain level of faith. Why did you ask this? I agree.  I agree with that and I think that  it's all just whatever you're willing to suspend your disbelief for, right? Like if you've been brought up in a world where  the mainstream view on things is just something that you take as religion, then  that's what you're gonna see the world as. Like I believe that we all are seeing a different and experiencing a different world.  Yeah. You know, like the way we see the world and the way we intake the information is actually different. And it's the same thing as like,  if you are colorblind and never  got tested and don't know it, and we both look at the same color and you've been conditioned to call whatever it is you're seeing over there as red. And I see the color truly as red. So I can relate with other people who truly see it as red. But if you see another color  at some point,  Like you're experiencing the world differently. Like red to me is as red as red as to you. Well, you see it in color and it could be a different shade of a color, but you've been told that it's red. Right. But it doesn't. It's just as red to me in my experience of red. Because you've been brought up to believe it's red. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. But then when you like take that on the macro, like you're seeing the world in different lenses. have all these different lenses from your experiences growing up that are so individual, not one other. person even as close as we are, all still have different lenses, different experiences.  so everything gets filtered through those lenses.  What do you think about it?  on the moon stuff?  Well, the reason I asked, because I was listening to a podcast  and they brought it up and it was like the first time I actually was like, What do I think? Like, actually don't know. I haven't like researched. I don't know really much about it at all. And in that podcast, they're like, and we've never been back since. what? And I was like, wait, we've never been back to them since. So did we actually learn that? So then I started thinking about it. was like, wait, hold on. Before that, I just really didn't like think about it too much. So then I was like actually curious. Yeah. Yeah, because some of the evidence,  some of the evidence in the contrary to the fact that we landed on the moon is compelling.  there are like aspects of like  it  to me it seems like whatever like we may have at some point in that during that time had the technology to go.  But I don't know that we had the technology to go there and record it  and to like document it the way we did. Like we probably barely had the technology to get there.  But to get through the radioactive  Van Hellen belts and get to the moon  and still have all of this footage  from going to the moon, it almost seems like we, even if we did, it might have been like a probe, like a uh non-manmade or man,  like  no people in it, like went to the moon, carried out the mission.  And what we were sold,  like the public, was that these three people went to the moon and did this mission.  But really they were just in a studio filming it to make it look good  enough for people who've never really, they barely even know what TV is and seeing other,  know, they don't know all the tricks and  like what they're seeing  could be just in a studio.  We did go to the moons in a way. We're kind of experiencing that on a level with AI  right now  with like having to question, wait, is that real?  because it's something so new that like it's hard to know, wait, but can they do that? Can they make it look like that? And so you don't know whether to believe it or not. Right. We're entering a like a post truth situation where how do you know what's Is it because someone told you? Is it because you've measured something yourself, is it because you've read it in a book or in a class? Like, what is your source? Dude, and when all of those sources can be AI generated and you know AI is prone to like hallucinations and just being really stupid. Just lying. And lying. Yeah. Like AI has been known, like there's been cases where it's been shown to just lie outright because it's hallucinating where it's like doesn't want to admit that it doesn't know. So it like will make up something. Are you guys using terms as it like.  Well like the hallucination term is something  that the programmers use program use that term but it's not hallucinating in the sense Well, have to understand a little bit how  AI works  it's these Networks  of numbers that do multiplication with each other. That's all it is. It's a big matrix multiplication and you put information into it and it spits something out. uh But all it's learning to do is put words together.  So it's just predicting the next word based on  whatever statistical network it has developed. uh And it can be wrong or it can not have training on a thing and it will just predict a next word that maybe is likely in one scenario,  but it takes it totally off the rails.  and it's not a real human, so it's just gonna follow wherever those words take it. And this is the large language model, the LLM that they talked about with AI, like it's deriving all of its information off of other words that were transcribed, like, and  fed to it. Yeah, so you can ask it things,  and if it doesn't know, or if you prompt it to it a certain way, it can just make up the most random shit in the world. So you can't really just inherently trust what comes from it. Of course. Although there are some verifiable things. If you use it for Google and you're like, what's the recipe for this?  It's going to spit out something that's like, but if you're talking  even complex sentences, it can  miscue, especially if you use language in not the phonetical way.  Or like the, by the book,  how the English language works.  It could  start messing with how it responds.  Well, the language is whatever we  find useful to communicate with each other. That's why we have all these like memes and slang. It's interesting.  It's so weird to think about like,  well, so like, OK,  back to the mood thing.  What do you what do you guys think about the Artemis  thing? Because there's this whole thing about like getting outside the Kuiper belt.  I think they're moving through it fast enough  and I think  they have certain ways to deal with it that. Radiation doesn't just automatically kill you. We're subject to radiation 24 hours a day. It's coming from our devices, it's coming from the sun, it's coming from the environment and our earth.  Like maybe we're more ah able to handle radiation than... Because wasn't there an opinion that like humans  can't go through the  radiation  belt?  Yeah, but you have certain...  thresholds like if you go fast on when you're going to yeah cycles of it there's space weather the sun has flares and activity and it shoots out energy  and we move through that as we go around the sun  and so that energy hits our magnetic field and it creates these radiation zones but The question is, if you get through it fast enough,  and radiation is all about how high is the dose and how long are you exposed to it.  So  if you can do things to shield yourself and you just shoot right through,  then you can be fine.  Or it's just small enough that it's like getting an x-ray. Like you shouldn't get an x-ray every day.  But  that's why people who work for it go in the other room and they wear the  lead.  is probably like they wouldn't put lead on a spacecraft because it's super dense, they would. So they're coming up with like other creative ways to like shield enough to get through. Yeah. But not so much that it weighs down the ground. about reentry? space suits and stuff. They're still exposed to that same level of radiation on the way back. Yeah. Correct. OK. Yeah. Do you? OK. But it's all about what time of year is it? Is it a big storm  and the radiation in that area is super high  or  are they probably scheduling it based on when it's quiet to send someone through? Right, that'd be smart.  But I mean,  no really, but like  the thought being like that was one of the arguments against like the original Apollo mission.  Right? they  humans can't go through there. So they were they were obviously just floating around in lower Earth. I just don't think  they have the evidence to make that statement. So they don't anymore. They destroyed everything from those missions. They literally all of the spacecraft,  like everything. And they have like replicas of the landers and stuff. But I don't think they have any of the originals, do they? I don't know. I think we can get through the Kuiper Belt. I think humans can survive.  Dude, how I think you should have just made.  Why didn't they?  Did anybody ask her? Did you guys research like I wish I would ask them? I should have sent them an email.  Why didn't you guys land like you're there  like I get that's relatively complicated, but  how  much of an  obviously it has months. Artemis. Yeah. sure. I won't. And obviously Artemis is  number one mission wasn't to say like this is going to be our mission to like prove.  that we can do this. You know what mean? that,  like if you're NASA and you did land,  you're, you do not care about all the people who are like trying to say you didn't land, right? Like you don't need to prove it. Yeah.  But it's a totally different operation. You're right. Travel there and slingshot bat versus to go there  and land and land and then reattach and come home. Like that's  really hard. And the thing is they got rid of the whole  like after the shuttles,  they decommissioned all that stuff.  Well, those were just International Space Station trips, weren't they, with the shuttles? They didn't take the shuttles. The never went to the Yeah.  Those were just the Apollo capsules, right?  All of the video seems weird.  In my opinion of the Apollo mission where you like you're seeing it. Yeah. OK. Yeah. It just seems weird. But also like the cameras at the time were bad and like  it just  it seems weird. Like I'm thinking that the footage we're seeing is just not authentic.  I don't think that necessarily we didn't go there.  But like all of the videos and all of the evidence showing that we went there is just kind of like  suspicious. That one video where they're like.  The guy clearly comes in the frame.  Oh, yeah. And like  he's trying to create some sort of shape in the window. Yeah.  To give you this visual of that was Barca, bro, too. I think that. Yeah. Show that. He talked about that.  Yeah, it was there. That felt crazy. I was like,  yeah. So  like there was a so they were taking the video to show like, oh, man, they were trying to say that they were really far away from the earth and they were capturing it in space, just floating there in like this darkness. and they're taking a video and at some point, you're seeing the earth, right? You're seeing all the colors, the blues and the browns and the greens and it's round.  And it's like the whole thing. But then all of a sudden you see it kind of like somebody  walk past and like the, what's the,  the focus of the camera changes. And you can see like they're in the, they're like away from the window.  Like they're playing it off as they're sticking the camera in this window and you're just seeing the earth. But really they're way far back in this space capsule and there's somebody floating past and it's just like a trick of the eye. It makes it seem like they're further away from the earth. Is one of the theories or something to make that shape fully with the window? Oh, yeah. I thought that's what. No, yeah, they put an insert in the window to show like as a crescent. That's the claim. That's the whole that's the part that was like I think there was two because there was one that they were making it seem like they were far away from the earth.  And then there was then they showed like the crescent, like as if like the sun was setting on one side of the earth. So you're seeing like the dark side  and the light side of Earth. But then they like zooms out and somebody takes this insert out of the window that takes away the crescent shape and they're like  right above the earth, like just in orbit. Blown out. Yeah.  Yeah, it's like a trick is like a camera trick. Like it gives you the impression that you're looking at a camera is up against a window and you're at something far away. But if you have no basis of what the earth should look like, right. Then like from any anybody at home is getting a live feed of the earth. Right. Is this the argument? I think it was a lot of. Yeah, they were just creating this like illusion. So first of all, the argument is that they orbited the earth  and they played pre-recorded footage of them  landing on the moon  and they used and that Stanley Kubrick was the director.  that  that was an odd detail. I felt like yeah But also he Stanley Kubrick. He did another film for him. He 2001 A Space Odyssey. Yeah, which was a sci-fi like Why did he point at Stanley Kubrick though? That feels like a weird... What's the Well, he had ties to the government or NASA at the time, I believe. think that was part of it. Like he just had, he knew people that were... Barthes. said it was probably him. Yeah, I think he made that connection because it's like the most obvious. Interesting. It would be the most obvious because... Stanley Kubrick was using NASA people to help  on his movie to make sure the science is correct when all he's putting this movie together. so he had a connection to that. That's why he was, yeah, I gotcha. So that's where he's getting the idea that he may have been in on filming some extra stuff for NASA to use for their space landing or their moon landing.  And there's apparently a bunch of symbology in The Shining. Right. That has to do with it. The boy is wearing  a... You wash your shiny?  A Polo shirt and it's got the rocket  and... uh And like certain numbers on the doors and like there was like  little details like the sweat. Yeah, the sweater he was wearing. Yeah. And then like the carpet pattern like spelt something out.  smokes. Is there... Can we watch any of this?  We could. Uh, we can look for some clips. Yeah. I mean, it does not be right now. I'm just curious. do think? That's interesting. Listening to you guys. Yeah. Do you guys know? I don't know what I think. Do you guys know who Bob Lazar is? John? Oh yeah. Yeah. Andy? No? We should play some stuff on him. We should play the- I actually clipped some Jesse Michaels with Oh, okay, cool. Cool. We should pull that Can you play it for the group while we are on the pod? Yeah. I just want to set it up a little bit. Yeah, go ahead. ahead. John, stop using the microphone. I just like saying dramatic things. So he's this guy, he's a scientist who- In the late 80s, like 89, he came out as a whistleblower and he said that he worked for the government at Area 51, a place called S4. And this was in 89. This was before anyone knew what Area 51 was. He is the reason that is a thing in our popular culture. What's his name? Bob Lazar. So  this is before those very and now we know that area 51 is real, but they still  deny that S4 is real. Which is this  specific site, he says, where they  have captured these UFOs from all over the world, from different  crashes. Roswell being one of them. archaeological digs.  Yeah, he says that specifically, but he also  made it sound like  he called it a dig, but a lot like some of them were found in the ocean. Yeah, he clarified recently that that's what he meant.  some problem, maybe some like archaeological, I don't know if they're finding them under the ground, but they're finding them like crashed or they're calling and he mentioned it too, I think about them being like gifts, like, yeah, like, or, yeah, I guess gifts to us. So Bob Lazar's basically he comes out, he says he was hired by them to reverse engineer the technology. to try and figure out how their technology worked. how did the engine work? How did the propulsion  work? ah So  he said he's been in one. He's  had the thing and studied it and tried to out how it works. What are the materials made of? eh It's got this element, he said,  element 115. On  the periodic table.  At that time in the  80s had not been ah detected by us. It's been since created. unstable particle accelerator. It's unstable. They don't last. Yeah, he's saying it's a stable version of this element 115 where it doesn't decay immediately when it's created. And he says they put that in this little generator and it creates a field that runs these He calls them emitters. Yeah, which he describes it as. There's three of them, but you can use it in different ways. So like if you just turn one on, it's for like, you know, just hopping down the road, you know, you're just kind of like, or floated or floating. Yeah. And then there's like, I think it was Delta. Yeah. They called it use all three. You're putting all three and they actually point in front of the craft. And that's when like some of the videos we've seen, like the Nimitz.  I think it was the Nimitz one where they saw this craft and it  looks like a normal saucer but it turned on its belly and the  with the belly of the craft  like moved  and he says that's part of the like the emitters are at the bottom of the craft so when it's just moving normally  on a lower state  it's just got the one emitter and it moves at a normal but when it uses all of them to like  basically teleport through the universe or whatever  it moves on its belly and then moves that way,  which is what we've seen in some videos. uh obviously the government says, and all these Congress people are saying they've seen all these videos, but none of them have been released. Right. That are not public yet. And then there's also the fact that there's been scientists all over the world for long time that have been studying like anti-Griphitic effects.  And  some of the elements that exhibit weird, anomalous behaviors like  bismuth. And bismuth, if you look at the periodic table of elements, you know how it's in rows, things that are in rows share common uh amounts of electrons in their outer shell. And so they end up taking similar shapes, having similar behaviors. So this bismuth that people have been studying for a long time in relation to anti-gravity is right above the element 115. So they share the same properties. Right. So if you could have a stable version of that, presumably it could have enhanced effects of even what the bismuth is showing. So  anyway,  Bob Lazar came out in the 80s with all this stuff.  What made him want to tell people like, did something happen? so he  began to  get scared  for his  life. even before that, he  was not  he was kind of like a part time employee there, like he wasn't working there all that often.  and they kind of called him in  a whim's notice and he would stay there for like a few days and then not come back for like a month or something. Like that was kind of his schedule with the government because he  was working at Los Alamos labs right at the time.  And he was kind of just like this engineer and he just has like an interesting way of looking at things. He's not kind of like the typical guy. He was a contracted guy, but he was like working on is the kind of guy he was. put a jet engine on his Honda. Yeah, like an airplane jet engine. Wasn't that what he was known for? In terms of like his propulsion was in the local newspaper for that. That's actually how he wound up getting a recommendation from a famous scientist into this government job. turned out to be at Area 51. Yeah, and then so what made him kind of want to come out and share the story was it seemed like at some point while he's working there, when he's not on duty, actively working there, he'll like, he started eventually telling people and bringing people to come and see the craft because he knew the schedule of when they tested it and when they would fly it over the area that he worked at. And so he was bringing people out there. And before he um even came out,  you know, successfully without getting caught, you know, brought people out there to watch it.  And then at one point he did get caught.  And  at the same time, the entire time he was working with them, his phones were being tapped. He was being monitored at all times by this group.  And um they found out that his wife had been uh cheating on him.   And  to them, he says that that means that you might have some unstable home life and they might distance themselves from you.  And at the same time, had just gotten caught bringing people around at same time, he had just got caught bringing people to see the craft. So he was worried. So he had started getting worried  that he would, and you know,  the, he said like,  yeah, or do something.  Well, like if they don't trust him. If they don't trust them with the senior. Yeah, was worried for his life. Yeah. So he thought his best chance was to go talked into going public. By a guy. Was it, was it Lear that  talked him into going public? Yeah. Well with, with George, obviously. Yeah.  But I talked to George Knapp, who's this guy. Las Vegas reporter. he, yeah, he's Las Vegas reporter. He's still a reporter, but he also covers UFOs and stuff. But he broke the news for the Bob Lazar story. And at first he was anonymous. Like when he first came out with the story in the late 80s, he was anonymous. He was like on a screen, you know, where they just filmed the silhouette. Yeah, he was like in a shadow. a But can tell, knowing what he looks like now, that that was him. the way he changed his name and stuff too. obvious stuff. ah yeah, it's the same story that he told in the early  90s.  And he's still telling it now on Joe Rogan and all these big podcasts. And now people are getting more interested in it because things are coming out. Congress is now debating these things. They're trying to get it public. And there's people fighting in those arenas trying to like  disclose what we do know.  Even though we might not know anything, it's a real possibility that the government knows nothing and that there's some other group that is, you know, a part of it. That would be wild if they actually knew nothing, but then actually got power from people thinking they know something. like, And that's a real possibility. That's a real possibility because that's dynamic that they would need to maintain as that they are knowledgeable about all of the things that are going on because that's how they maintain their hold on the population. If they don't know and they're supposed to protect us, that's the whole agreement, right? They're protecting us. They're providing these things. That's a good point. So if they have no control over it and they're trying to figure it out just as much as we want to know, then that's scary too, because now we, nobody knows what's going on and who they are, what's their, and if they're in contact with anybody else on earth,  you know, there's a lot of things that it could be.  Especially if you start to include details like  them being cited for decades around uh nuclear missile sites, nuclear submarines.  And they've, There are stories that they, during one of these sightings, they have deactivated active nukes and they've activated unactivated nukes. Like they've done both things to show, you know, that the UAP phenomenon that's happening around nubilier sites, they have done both where they can show that they can turn off nukes at any time and they can turn on nukes at any time. There's this author, Robert Hastings, he wrote this book called UFOs and Nukes. and he found and documented and interviewed over 150 military people, ex-military people who worked in different roles, but a lot of them are people who worked at these missile sites where we kept nuclear missiles. And these are the type of people that they have to report if they have a ibuprofen, because they're entrusted with nuclear weapons. So these are the most reliable  people.  And they're saying that these things have happened.  Yeah. They're saying they've seen  UFOs and anomalous activity and  missiles being turned on, missiles being turned off.  Yep.  Wow. Yeah.  Yeah, you almost have to play dumb either way. You have to play dumb if you do know and you have to play dumb if you don't know as a government. If you don't know, you got to say that you Yeah. And by saying and without saying that you know, you have to make it seem like you're keeping a secret. That you do know something, but there's something there, but we can't tell you. Yeah. They have to string you along enough. It's going to really random. But I have to ask before I forget. So if missiles are missiles, what are missiles pointed at when they're inactive? Because if they just get turned on and blow up, are they directing at? They have to be programmed in with a location. They have to have a flight plan. They have a GPS target. Too large. And they... Yeah. And then they have online, like onboard targeting and navigation systems and stuff. They use satellites to find targets and then they say system is getting turned on and off. So it's not really pointed at anything until it's specifically programmed to go somewhere. Wait a minute. They're always just pointing at it. It's pointed at something. They're just hovering above the ocean, just pointing out somewhere. I don't know how it all works. I'm just curious. Yeah. It's crazy. kind of scary. I mean, there's been multiple times in history, like not too distant history either, where governments have come together and said, let's disarm our nukes, if we take the nukes off the table. They didn't obviously disarm a lot. They just had nuclear disarmament. We'll take away 5 % of our nukes if you take away 5 % of your nukes, stuff like that. And there's evidence that, there's some, I mean, it's loose evidence, but there's like, There's like, how do you? What's the evidence of? Don't stop. It's like, you know, governments like having like a shadow government that like is in. control in some way or has  feelers out in some way of almost all of the major powers in the world.  And they are the ones that  are aware of what's going on. And they're the ones since the, you know,  40s,  30s,  maybe just after World War II, where this like  shadow government is kind of like this  military industrial complex. And it seems to be like worldwide,  you know, at this point. And they are the ones uh  I think I'm just on another tangent  now. All  I was gonna say is like if you're if you're a country oh What's happening with the pepper thing? He saying like, if you disable 5 % of your units, Like take them offline, get rid of them. But there's evidence that... He was saying that the government's... That that's happening. Is that what you're saying? Like multiple governments are aware that UFOs have that capability and they're coming to agreements. because of that information. Thank you. I that. Sorry.  I lost the total train of thought. But I like where you went to. But go ahead.  OK. um Just from like  like from the standpoint of like  World powers, right? Like you have  nuclear armor  armaments, armaments. Is  that what they're called? Armament. Armors like a shield  and armaments is like weapons.  Totally. Is that true though? So like the word?  Armaments.  So gotta make sure. I to say it. It's our reward. If you had nuclear bombs, right, and you're a world power  and  like you're the one who maybe you reach out to Russia and you're like, hey, let's just let's drop it by 5%.  And the whole goal is to go down to zero. cool.  Like  if I was  the one of the superpowers.  I'm probably not going to zero, right? You want to make sure that you have something, just in case they're not. I don't think anyone ever say they're going to zero. Right, so like in my mind, psychologically, this is not going away. You know what I mean? And so any amount of nuclear power And recent history has been a lesson for countries about this. Countries that don't have nuclear weapons they get invaded a lot countries that do have nuclear weapons. They don't get touched North Korea  Because you have the power to just end  Right. I think that's freaking civilization. Well, there's  yeah real heavy motivation to have them and Especially now with this whole thing with Iran  They were  in deals to not have nuclear weapons and we bombed them anyway what and  They were even saying because they were led by their spiritual like, you know, yeah leader,  right? They were like it's against our religion. We won't do that. Like we don't even have any reason to want to do it. If you just don't mess with us like there's no like we're cool. Yeah, it's kind of what they were saying. Libya was a country that walked back from nuclear weapons and then they got invaded.  So there's a bunch of.   examples of that so there's real motivation to have them if you can and especially if you're close like they are and getting attacked right so it's almost backfiring it's making them more in my mind is probably gonna make them want it more right yeah right  but anyway yeah  the real question is   Can we even have a nuclear war?  I know, we might not even If UFOs have proven over and over again that they can just flick them on and off,  like, is that even on the table?  Hopefully not. And do the world leaders know about that? Well, and  we wouldn't know what the...  What would they want? Would they want us to? Would they want it to follow through? Would they want or would they want to stop? We know that, right? Even though they have the power to write. Right. Well, yeah, we can't say that they're malevolent or that they're benevolent. Right. We can't be. We can't assume that at least unless we unless they have  proved it. Right.  Yeah. And if they like one day show up and like we've been here for years,  we've been making sure nothing happens.  Why do they sound so? like sultry. That's the voice. I don't know. I'm literally attracted to them. I am. I am just by hearing you talk. I'm channeling right now. I'm Indian. That's just how they talk. OK. I didn't. That's just how we are. How tall are they? In my mind. I don't know. Yeah, they come and say that. Like, we're here and we've been maneuvering things as We saw fit.  There's a lot of people who believe that that's true  and who knows unless you have an experience that tells you that that's true.  unless there is some time where they just show up on the coastlines like in Arrival or they land somewhere and they  sit there for a decade and don't do anything and you're just like society just copes with the fact that they're there. Dude, we're back to the mainlanding  because we see footage of it. How do we know it's real?  True. How do we, how can we trust  that this is real and all seven billion people on the planet are going to agree that this is real and these are aliens and that what they say is real. It is literally,  unless  you do not just see it yourself.  Unless you see it yourself.  Like, yeah. Like there would be no,  if you showed me something you were so convinced.  Like I'd be like, it's possible that that's completely not real. I have no reason to believe that's not AI generated. Like that's crazy to think about. Like even all of us growing up, like you just kind of just believe what you see. there's a term. only option outside of like the TV we did have. Right. There is a term for this and maybe Dean will think of it while I'm describing it. But it's like this idea that like What is knowledge?  we, you of just touched on it earlier, but  like, how are you your knowledge?  What is your knowledge? Like,  what can you say you're the most knowledgeable about, right? So you have these experts who,  some of them,  in a lot of ways, do do the physical things to,  you know.  find out the answers to certain questions, right?  But then they write books and then that knowledge is passed on to somebody else and they're not  doing the thing that the first person did. Yeah, right. It's all based on somebody else's about it. And then that goes on for generations and generations where people are learning how to do things just off of  other words. when you talk about already the lenses, when you're reading information and taking a knowledge, you still have one that's filtering through. We definitely have lenses and we also there's another level to that that I think a lot of people don't think about enough, which is that we're not actually  seeing  like what we're experiencing is our mind projecting a space like the light that hits your eyes, it gets converted. And then somehow electrical signals in your brain turn into this  experience of reality.  Like there is a projection created by your brain taking in information.  That doesn't necessarily mean that the way your brain is projecting it is  how it actually  is from someone else's point of view. well, it's a filter is a good way to put that right. Yeah. information is I  would well, whatever baby. This information is here through all the filtering it differently.  Because our brain is always creating our experience, it has different things happening.  There's different things we're thinking about or stressing about or having emotions about.  And then you got the same thing visually. That's all visually. And then you got your mental. Right. And then you got your hearing and your smell and your touch and all these things. Right. And then like emotional to like we all have different things that are triggering how we're emotionally responding to a certain song or a certain smell. Those can trigger deep emotions that could make you cry. Like if it's like a deep enough emotion. Too much to think about guys.  Did you guys know that your eyeballs,  like the way the light comes in, it hits upside down.  And there's a certain spot where you don't have sensitivity where the nerve ending hits in the back of the eyeball. There's a certain area that doesn't have a lot of sensitivity.  So you basically have a blank spot on each eye and they're upside down.  But your brain...  turns it right side up, combines it, makes it this depth experience,  and fills in the hole.  Yeah, like our peripherals, like... That's a lot of processing. Dude, oh yeah,  well, like all these visual illusions, I send them you a lot. I think I send them to both of guys a lot. Yeah.  Yeah, I don't know. He's not sure about you two yet. He's not sure about you guys. There's one you can handle though. Do you guys have a brother thread? Yeah, have. And Chris is in it. You guys have a sister thread. It's just our Texas. Exactly. That's closest we can get to that. Wait, Chris is it on it? Yeah. It's like the Glover boys. Glover boys. Glover boys. Jordan and Emory aren't. Not yet. Not yet. They'll be in it soon. Maybe. But the battery one? Did you the battery line where like the drawing around the batteries rolling together? literally they set the batteries down and they look like totally different sizes. Can you cue it? Yeah. Oh, you can? No, no, we're We're talking about something else. Oh, no. This is my cue to just leave the podcast. you for time. Send it to Dean's phone. can play. Send it to Dean. Send it to Dean. So this is we were talking about this earlier. This is Bob Lazar. No, we're going to go back to that. We're going to go back to that. This is we want to continue on this thread because we were just talking about this is Bob Lazar on Jesse Michaels. And this is some of Clips from Bob on the left, Jess Michaels on the right. Yeah. Me too. I don't know if Jesse gave you any context to why I wanted to talk to you. They have a bit. Yeah, but maybe we'll rehash it. Okay. So Bob, check this out. Okay. I have in my possession UFO footage that has a story behind it that is compelling but not convincing. And I've been waiting to Just do something with this footage or receive confirmation of sorts.  And I see this particular orange disc sometimes in  UFO videos and documentaries.  It pops up every now and then. But when I was watching the trailer for S4 that you guys released, about 80 % of the way through the trailer, you guys show a disc that is at night, but then kind of coats itself in this orange. Right. Yeah. That's right. Yeah, dude. I paused it there and I said, oh my god That looks exactly like the footage that I have so this footage supposedly authentic was taken by two college kids who Wanted to go to area 51 in the 90s I believe it was 1995 and film their experience of trying to see if they could stumble upon  a  UFO or just alien activity of sorts.  Let's break this down.  A couple of college-age guys drove out to the black mailbox, an infamous landmark entrance point to Area 51.  It's along the road that leads to Groom Lake,  extremely close to where Bob said he worked.  It's nighttime.  They're parked right in front of the fence surrounding the secret facility. The lights are off on their car and they have a camera resting on the armrest pointed through the front windshield.  And then it cuts to  under the dashboard and you see something very clearly illuminating like the top of the dashboard and  they're like hunkered underneath the car  and they're whispering to each other like  I think it's out there like I don't know what it is maybe we should go out and  they're they're like kind of scared.   Then something appears just beyond the glass.  the craft is hovering extremely close to the car.  It's orange and slightly wobbling or undulating in place as if it's on a wave.  you can hear the two guys whispering.  Yeah, that to me is exactly how it was described by Bob. It's exactly like your hand did. Your hand did this. It's moving the right way. It's the right color and it's the right shape. um So it makes it very compelling. The intensity of the light,  there's something very, very bright that is affecting that. The dash is being lit. It's the dash of the vehicle and the craft is above it.  And look at the intent. Here's the dash and look at the intensity of the light that's going to happen here.  Right.  Well,  there  those  those are really. Yeah, you can. And it's fading in. Yeah, you can't fake that.  can see that it wobbles but it wobbles your wobbles that's the important thing yeah it does  comport with your video wobbles it glows like that in that color in that shape  that's wild dude  yeah I mean it's why guys  Yeah. Where was the transition from the dash to that? Yeah, that's exactly where I was. Why did our There's nothing compelling about that. I need to see the dash and the thing. Do you know how often we can look out a window and there's some reflection off of a window that's doing something that we don't understand? I'm just saying the transition is like, this is them just giving credibility to this without us seeing anything that would. like just by visual alone would indicate that it's anything. I just find it interesting that Bob's like, that's exactly how looks. Like the situation, the wobbling or whatever. The guy that was down up close that was with Bob right there at the end, that's Luigi. He's the one who made this most recent, I guess you would call it a video biography of I wanted to bring up while we talking about Bob. Yeah. I can't remember if it was Vendettetti or Vendettetti or something like that. Vendettelli. Vendettelli, that's it. And he's the filmmaker that makes this Bob Lazar video So he's for last three years interviewing, working with Bob, recreating his entire story. Yeah.  So like, that's what I think you have it, right? Yeah. So I want to watch it. He used like the satellite data to like make the landscape. He  modeled the base. They modeled the UFOs and they  matched all the textures and descriptions and everything with Bob's memory to try and make it as  accurate of a depiction of what he's  trying to say about what happened to him.  That's cool. Yeah. So they're just trying to recreate his experience. Yeah. They're trying to show the story visually. So like instead of just his words. It's out. I actually have it. watch it. That would be cool. Yeah. Yeah. Do they address? Yeah. The transition. The transition? I don't think they do. Oh, I don't know. I don't think they do. That bugs me. That bugs me about this. exactly what I thought. We can keep listening. I'm just curious what he says. It's impressive, it is. The craft emits an orange-reddish color, which is not a coincidence.  A craft with strong field interactions, like the ones that Bob alludes to,  creates an ionized plasma sheath around itself.  The dominant atmospheric gas on Earth is nitrogen.  Ionized nitrogen that interacts with plasma glows red-orange. This is a observation of a glowing reddish or orange- Sorry. Yeah. Why is he talking to Logan Paul? He's the one who's... Did Logan Paul randomly come across someone's random file from 95? Well, think about it. you're a person sitting on a video like that... Logan Paul was? No, he got a copy He got access to it. Just from whoever... I forget. There's a whole story behind it. I don't know it, but... To me, I'm just like, this just feels like the biggest clickbait. Like, oh, Logan Paul talks about UFOs. Like, oh, for sure. Whatever. I'm obviously being a skeptic here, but I'm just like, so it just feels so put on Logan a little bit. And Logan and Jesse are have became friends because probably because of this, like they have an interest like Logan has showed interest in. He's been in other he's been in other videos of Jesse's to where they talk about UFOs like he was with them when they talked to. I think Lou Elizondo or one of the other whistleblowers early on, he was in one of those videos too. it's a known interest of Logan Paul's. It's an area he is interacting with. It's not something that you're to find on his podcast or his thing. He may be mentioning it, but you see him with Jesse because that's the person he knows that is interested in doing stuff. So if sending out a video like that, know Logan Paul's into it, you send it in. Yeah, especially if you're like one of his followers or something. him getting access to something.  But I agree like  no none of the UFO footage has been like the one thing that's gonna make you believe that there are UFOs. For me, it's not about any one video being like, this is the undisputed proof. It's more like the collection of all of it. Yeah, the sum  of the parts of the whole phenomenon and everyone's experiences with it. Especially when you get thousands and thousands and thousands of people who have different little snippets of stories and  like, you believing that all these people are just fabricating something because they're bat shit crazy or is it maybe there's actually something going on and it's inconvenient to publicize it as that, you know? Yeah, there's some really incredible people like Commander Fravor, like other people, like they see these things and there's different versions of UFOs too, like they're not all this. Yeah, it's not all just random citizens either. It's government people, like the people on the PRP program like we were talking about. And people discredit Bob too because he's got you know,  checkered pass. He he  owned a ran a brothel at one point in like Vegas and like, because he lived in the desert.  There was nothing around him. It's when you build a rocket car and go fast on this desert plane, you know? Yeah. OK, sorry. I was just, yeah. I don't even it. I think Bob is very fascinating. again, he doesn't tell you. He's not going out and saying, believe me. He's just saying, this is my experience. I'm telling you, it's really for his own safety. the safety part, I don't know if that would be unsafe. Well, at this point, like he's been out there for long enough, like.  people know about him? Then if he were to disappear, would question him. Exactly. That's it. Got it. That's the reason why. Yeah. And then his story is out there now and people are going to give him more credibility after you get martyred.  know, martyred.  Martyred. Yeah, martyred is the  word.  Did your vocabulary tell you that today?  Martyred means  to uh Deaded. What? Be deaded for a cause. For a cause, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like your... It's a joke. Good job with vocabulary words. you know? You did I was just seeing if you knew what you were saying. God. I do know, I just don't know how to describe it. He knows. How would you describe martyred? Deaded for a cause. They just said that. But it's specifically like you get elevated because of your death. Like the act of you dying is like- But people who are alive give you the martyrs. Sort of like the power that you wouldn't have had if you were alive. Yeah. So there you freaking go. But what does it when you're a live person and you're called a martyr? Jesus. Sorry. Usually that just means like you're maybe- A lesser sacrifice. Yeah, like you're just sacrificing like your sanity or you're you're sacrificing your- But people use that as like a negative like, oh she's such a martyr. Yeah, because- Whoa, it's a word. You use a word, you can do that with any word. But it sounds like it's supposed be good thing, but I guess it depends on how you feel about the cause. Got it, okay. Yeah, exactly. She's such a martyr. Yeah, yeah Yeah, she's way said John, did you set it to him? Oh, no, I couldn't find it. So, okay Anyway watching basketball videos you guys the whole time He's aware that LeBron does LeBron stuff It's okay So speaking of Bob Lazar and how he  went public to try and protect himself, right? ah Have you guys heard of this recent thing going on about, well, it's recently being talked about a lot now about all these scientists who've gone missing. Oh, yeah. Have you guys seen anything about that?  Has it popped up on any of your feeds? I saw. uh  Sorry.  Yeah, there's, and it's been like over the last like five years or so, right?  But a bunch of people who were in highly  advanced  fields  of research have either gone missing or turned up dead or like different circumstances for different people. Yeah. But apparently  some of them are under pretty suspicious  circumstances too.  Yeah, some, I mean, there some of them that like got shot in the front of their house. Why? Well, there's no answer. It's more of just like speculation. that's not I'm not trying to be rude. That was a genuine yawn. It's not I'm not bored. Sorry, guys. there's some chat. Sorry chat. There's some of them are shot in front of their houses. Some of them just like on a hiking trail, like 30 feet behind their friends are going missing. No, that's crazy. That's terrifying. Yeah. Don't tell me that. I'm just saying like that's one of the cases is I'm not a scientist. And this is is one of those scientists. This is one of those scientists. Yeah. Check this out. I found out that I was being physically surveilled  by the following  method. uh We, my ex and I realized, my ex boyfriend and I realized that people had been breaking into our apartment while we were gone together in the same vehicle.  And so like I'm in the apartment, I'm about to go to work and I'm like, why don't you take out the trash and scope out the parking lot and make sure it's okay before I go to work. So he goes out there and he's like, there's this weird fucking Lexus. It's like a silver Lexus. This is a shitty apartment. Like why is there really five  really nice Lexus in the parking lot? And it has tinted windows that are not street legal.  Like just totally dark, totally black tinted windows that are not possibly street legal. And so we're he comes back in and we're standing in our bedroom window looking at the Lexus and talking about it.  And I say out loud, Maybe we should walk over there later and take a picture of the license plate. Because the Lexus is across the parking lot from us, but it's backed in so you can't see the license plate. Within two minutes of me saying,  hey, we should walk over there later and take a picture of the license plate,  we were still standing there at the window looking at it, talking about it.  And an Eastern  European looking motherfucker. with a black beanie dressed all in black in his  50s or 60s,  walked out of the apartment directly across from ours holding a license plate.  And he opened the trunk of the Lexus and he took out some tools and he changed the license plate right in front of our fucking faces.  And then he walked back to his apartment and he put the old license plate on the front patio and went inside. left it outside. And it was literally like, come get the license plate. I have more. I have more where this came from.  Come get the license plate.  And then after that, the Lexus started tailing me. And every time I saw the Lexus, it had a different license plate.  It would be like Alabama plates, a different state plate, it would be random dealer plates,  none of which were local, just like cardboard temporary dealer plates,  none of which were any local dealers.  Every time I saw it, was different plates. It would follow me to the gas station to go get beard. I would go get beard at the gas station and that Lexus follows me. And even my ex called an Uber once.  He called an Uber. The Lexus pulled out from  the spot across the parking lot from our apartment, drove over to our apartment and said, hey, I'm your Uber here to pick you up. The license matched in the Uber app, but they didn't have an Uber sticker or a Lyft sticker.  You can't drive Uber if you don't have an Uber sticker. oh He pulled out of his spot across  from our apartment where he lived and drove over there to pick him up and said, hey, I'm your Uber here to pick you up. They changed the license plate right in front of our face. Like 60 seconds after I said, hey, we should go take a picture of that license plate. And they leave it on the patio, like, take it. We have more. Just take it. Play it again. Like. I'm scared. I'm tired. So yeah, if you read the top here, she is a researcher working on anti-gravity technology. This is where she gets into that. Oh, she's going to talk about it? Wait, she can't talk about her own death? Like over the past, this has been going on for like, I don't know, four or five years. And over the past 12 months, it's been like escalating, escalating, like more aggressive, more invasive. digging through my underwear drawer and sexual threats  over the past three to six months. And now I'm like, fuck, I have to publish.  Fuck, I have to publish because  it's only gonna get worse until I publish. There's no way out of this. There's no way out of this fucked up situation until I publish.  I found. So  yeah. oh did she post this?  This was before she was  you know,  found dead.  And it was from it was ruled a suicide. And she sent a text just one one month before her death saying she would never kill herself. According to the Daily Mail, right? Her name was Amy  Eskridge.  And yeah, she joined us this Well, she's one of these scientists that are going missing and she works on anti-gravity. Anti-gravity stuff, yeah. This is just one of the cases. There's other cases where there's like this Colonel in the Air Force, retired Colonel in the Air Force who  had been working and part of uh one of like the  scientific,  what was the  place he worked at? It was one of the bases, was Pat. uh Wright-Patterson Airfield and it's one of the places that's been speculated as being like a hotspot for UFO technology. That's where researchers have some of work in on after the Roswell incident where that crash material supposedly went off to. Yeah, and there's other... they flew it over there. That's where it ended up. UFOs ended up apparently. And he was like leading one of these groups and he was at his home one day after a doctor's appointment and his wife like left to go to a doctor's appointment came back like less than an hour later and he was missing and just like walked off into the desert apparently no car, didn't take his car, no phone, nothing that could be tracked and walked off and all he had was this revolver and missing, gone, no trace. And what are we thinking? There's multiple ways to think about it. You think about it like the three body problem. That one intrigues me. I've never watched that. So it's this idea that when we sent out a message. sci-fi novel that got made into TV show. You could probably describe it better. It's a novel that got turned into Yeah, it's a trilogy. Actually, I think they released a fourth book. I've got to check that.  Only the first book  is what's  on Netflix if you were to watch the show. I they are. But it's very interesting. I think they're doing more, right? They are, yeah. The premise is that we find life out there and that... We contacted them at some point.  And  they responded saying  to basically shut up, like stop broadcasting because as soon as you make yourself known,  as being technologically advanced enough to put that message out there  that you're attracting  attention  to other intelligence and you don't know what kind of attention that might So we had this whole conversation about like nuclear,  political nuclear stuff, right? So imagine that  10 times more advanced Star Wars  level.  capabilities with life across the galaxy and you find out that someone is there by the time they can make it to you because of the nature of the speed of light they if they can travel faster than light then they can be on your doorstep before you can do anything about it and so strategically speaking it's in their interest to deploy these million times more advanced  space based  whatever comes after nuclear weapons. Do you just wipe out the threat before it has a chance of hurting you? um Just out of there's like weird game theory that people do with, yeah,  like what is the best strategy for finding out that there actually is other life out there? And so the premise of the actual story and the three body problem, that's the full philosophical, like, you know, like  embedding, embedding of what the problem might be in that,  you know, if you were to contact the other life,  but in the story, uh they talk about how like,   This other civilization  is in contact with us and they are communicating and at some point they just stop talking once they find out  that,  so they're communicating and they're sharing and we're sharing and then  when they find out or they realize that  we as humans here are deceptive and that our true intentions,  we are capable of hiding our true intentions is what makes this other race that's communicating with us on the other side of the galaxy or whatever, you know, stop communicating. They stop all of a sudden communicating with us once they find out that we can be deceptive. So they don't trust that anything we've told them up to that point is true because they find out that we can be deceptive. There's a cute detail at the beginning of it all where the first person who discovers them, tells them that we are bad. Yeah. Well, it them broadcast our location on Because this is a person who grew up in the harsh, the communist revolution of China and witnessed a bunch of violence and has no hope in humanity. like, you know what, come here. They said, I think they said- can't be any worse than the people right now. Yeah, they gave our location, like our geolocation of Earth to this other race that they were committed to. And those people happen to live  in  a three sun  solar system. And because there's three suns,  it's a chaotic  orbit and you can't You can't have dependable seasons.  And so sometimes their planet comes too close to the suns and it burns. Wipes out everything. And sometimes it goes too far away and it freezes. And so they're always dealing with these like catastrophic.  And so they want to  leave their planet to somewhere that will be safe. And they find out about our planet because this person replied. And they find out about our resources and the things that we have here on earth.  And.  Basically, so  the story then goes to like  those beings sending down these like  machines that we can bet  you put on your head. It's like this virtual reality like game test  and  they're trying to see if  our smartest scientists and engineers and all the smartest people on earth  are able to solve their three body problem for their  the That's why all the scientists are disappearing. that what you're... So what they get to... Wow, I did not even get that connection. I was going to get there too, yeah.  So  they start, once they realize that we can't help them with their problem,  they see they're just coming here and they know that if  by the time that they get here,  we could have the technology to defend ourselves against their...  So their will, when they start messing with us on earth and they start killing off scientists, they start, they start giving us, yeah, go ahead. So like when they find out about us, they make the decision to come. And when they do that, they have a certain level of technology and their most advanced space technology, it's going to take them 400 years to get to earth. Right. And so they start going. They send this big ship and they're coming here.  In the meantime, they're still progressing scientifically and they're sending probes ahead  and they're trying to get a read for what's going on here. Who are we?  Can they live here? Do they have to dominate us? Like what's gonna be  the situation when they get here?  And... What's it like now? Maybe they can manipulate it to be beneficial to them by the time they get here. So they end up in communication, but they cut it off when they realized that we'd lie. So it's interesting intersect of the alien stuff coming out and AI taking over.  That's what you guys were  telling us is about to happen. That's going to be the big thing. That's what a lot of people are kind of hinting at is like there's a lot of spiritual stuff and there's a lot of like  there's a lot of like end times things that are happening that are have been talked about in  history as happening.  And  then there's a lot of these new age people that are saying something similar. And then there's AI and technology that's advancing to the point where it You know, it's all kind of like coming to this head. There's also congressional investigations right now. Yeah. And a bunch of the congresspeople who have had top secret briefings  through their investigations into the UFO matter um have given interviews  and um I've heard some of them talk about reading the book of Enoch.  I've heard some of them  say  you should read the three body problem. Because they can't say what they saw, but they're like. They can give you kind of insights into what they're dealing with. So a congressperson saying to read the three body problem, I don't even know if that's right. It might have been someone else who said that. I think it was Luna. Was it Linda? think, or no, she was the one who was talking about the book of She was talking about the book of Enoch. And I think the three-body problem, there was people that mentioned,  I think Jesse had talked about that too. Yeah, I think it's someone he interviewed. It was somebody he interviewed, yeah.  Yeah, yeah. But anyway.  And the book of Enoch talks about, if you don't know,  it's the,  it's... You do? I do. Oh,  the Book of Enoch is,  it's kind of this like obscure book that  is not canon in like the standard Bible. They started reading it. We've some of it. think we've read we've read like maybe yeah, we have read the whole thing. That would be very interesting. Actually, let's do that. Let's definitely thank you. Now we know what doing for the next month. Yeah, no, it's so it's an interesting story. And this is where like the idea of I don't know if you know Zacharias it is or his idea. No. You're a Well, the book, all right, so the book of is... You could probably get out quicker. This biblical character, Enoch, who's mentioned in the Bible, but that's about it, until the Dead Sea Scrolls were found and all these apocryphal texts, texts and books that were circulated by Christians of the time, but were not later included in what we now call the Bible. There was an official process in Rome of  collecting these books and saying, this  is the canonical Bible.  And they rejected a bunch of stuff from that. And so there was the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls that has all that surrounding material.  And the book of Enoch is one of them. And he's this character that's mentioned in the Bible, but in this story, he gets taken up into heaven  and  given a tour.   and  gets this whole um description of what happened on earth with these angels coming down and. Yeah, he says that heaven is not like a ethereal place. It's actually a physical place that anybody can go to in their like in their physical form.  If given access.  He was taken up there. Well, yeah, I mean, I haven't read it myself, but this is what people say about this one. It's like this account of  these  creatures from space coming down. the  description, if you like  analyze the language of the people back then, like  what is the difference between an angel and something coming down from space in a ship, right? Like, how do know the difference?  Like  is the language of calling something an angel just the best description you can give  of what you're experiencing? So. what reference do you have to something that's that advanced? uh But anyway, yeah,  that talks about these  creatures coming down and like- The Anunnaki.  And uh taking wives of the humans and making this race of giants. Nephilim.  That walk the earth  and  yeah.  Which is also mentioned in other places and by cultures all across the world.  And there's all these  stories and  books and researchers who look into archaeological digs in America, Native American mounds, where they unearth these  giant skeletons that have like, they usually have red hair and they usually have like  two rows of teeth and they're way bigger.  And it's very interesting that all of these different cultures around the earth have such a similar story of like the beginning of civilizations and like the flood of some sort of flood myth  and some sort of like  you know  reteaching of humanity of how to like  do agriculture and  you know and all of these like religions of around the world  at one point were stemmed from something  very  similar  or maybe even the same thing and just based on being separated by space and time.  They  came up with different ways of expressing that  or included or excluded certain aspects of the original story. But also it just makes sense if you think about it. Like, we're here somehow, so why wouldn't someone else be somewhere else  in this vast universe  way before us?  Or way after us or, yeah, even simultaneous.  It's not really that crazy to think that there's interaction between parts,  know, more advanced species traveling, making use of places,  and then another species pops up generations later and... That would be crazy to think that we are the only ones.  Yeah. Yeah.  And it's starting  to become more normal that people feel that way.  Whereas like 150 years ago, people just assumed we were the only ones.  We were just like this special thing that only happened here. I I think somebody could have asked me a couple of years ago. What do you know about the vastness of the  The vastness of the universe  is astounding. guys ever watch those YouTube videos that show like the scale of everything? Yes.  I haven't, I probably should. It's mind boggling.  Should we watch one? I think we're... Let's watch one of the scales real quick. We could watch a scale. We're almost in two hours here. video. We're almost in two hours here. Look at the crazy scale video and then we'll call Amy's wrapping us up. The scale video is beautiful. Is it just a solar system? I think there's one. Yeah, just do scale of the universe. See what pops up. What's this? I can't tell you. The incomprehensible scales that rule the universe. Top on Brian Cox and that one stops. All right, here we go. I got a short only an hour. 30 hours or minutes. There we go. Hey, Macke.  series.  BUDO  This is probably not  exactly  what thinking of. That's pretty cool though.  It's cool but... It gets pretty big when you think about when you get to the sun. Once they zoom out and make sure you get everything.  Like that. Like that picture at the top. The  one at top? No, sorry, the one with the big blue circle. Yeah, like series eight. That's  when we just did. Yeah, that's crazy. How big is the universe? Is that the one?  Just go to the part where they start to zoom out. Actually, true scale. Go to the Brian Cox short. up, up, up, up, higher. It's not, yeah, go up a little more. Right there. Yeah. Just listen to this. is the one fact about the universe that blows your mind the most? There are lot of things about the universe that I find almost impossible to imagine. One is just the size and scale of it. I mean, in the piece of the universe we can see,  there are something like  two trillion galaxies.  We haven't counted them all, but that's an estimate based on  surveys of the local universe. Two trillion, 2,000 billion galaxies.  And each galaxy is,  let's say,  around the size of the Milky Way, some are bigger, some are smaller, but the Milky Way has 400 billion stars in it. It takes like  years to cross a galaxy. and there are two trillion of them in a piece of the universe we can see and we're very sure that that piece that we can see is a small bit  of what may be an infinite universe beyond. We don't know actually.  it makes no sense.  That's insane. Like I'm not... Crazy, right?  I'm being dramatic but you're saying that's wild.  It's just crazy to think about.  Yeah. The edges of what we can see, there's  two trillion  galaxies.  all we can see,  if you look really hard with a telescope,  is the planets in our solar system, which is within a galaxy. And there's so many other solar systems even within our galaxy. We're going to have more conversations, guys, because then I want to go to, like, so what's the point of our lives?  Yeah. What are we doing?  Why  do we need to know all that information or is the point to live in the way that we're to be living right now? We've talked about this  and like, it doesn't matter. We are here.  Whatever this is, it's happening.  We're all gonna agree to that.  Whether we're experiencing the same thing or not,  something is happening where  our  being is  here and we're experiencing things and It's all about learning  and  I think  what's outside of that doesn't, what's outside of our solar system doesn't necessarily matter,  but  what's going on within our  own capacity, like our own soul maybe, right? Like it's all just a way of learning and  maybe we're all just  fingers of the universe experiencing itself in new and creative ways when you get to the micro level, right? Because this is all macro,  but when you get to a micro, maybe this is what always happens when things get smaller. Well, you know, the edges of  whatever it is. Maybe humanity's role  is to  operate within the faculties that we are like  that we exist to be able to like,  yeah, to like function within. Right. Like  we only have so much capacity  to like comprehend certain,  you know, things or whatever. So it's it's  very meaningful to exist in that way. You know what I mean? Show up with what you can do. Maybe it's not about knowing the solution to the universe or whatever, but just taking care your day. know I mean? Experience life. I don't think it's important that we think that we're contributing to the greater universe necessarily, but we're contributing to things that matter to us, right? This is all happening still. start the podcast with mom and dad. Yeah. All of us like tapping into what we have and  how special that is. So mean, we just kind of brought everything full circle. I agree. I agree. Yeah. good job. That's a great point. Yeah.  Yeah. I mean, everything is life  and decay and death. And we don't know what happens beyond death.  But I think that  the journey from  beginning of life to death is  the whole point, no matter how that comes about in our next life when we all find each other again.  think it's all gonna be worth it. Maybe that's why this is so special, because we did find each other and it's like, I mean, there's not many words to just explain what we feel. We tried at the beginning with everyone. And everyone taps into our family, like you all said, all your friends, everyone from the outside wants in. Yeah, there's like a special bond here that feels like it transcends. what our experience  has been up to this point. And there's other aspects of life too that I'm sure we've all experienced at one point or another where like  you go somewhere or you're with somebody or you're doing something that like just makes you feel a different feeling, you know, like, and that is  what that's meant to do.  Us as a family, we have a certain feeling that we, you know, leave people with and that's what it's meant, you know,  to do. Yeah.  whether we're aware of it or not,  you know?  I think everything's that way, everything in life.  Like there's always something that,  you know, you  go down the street and  somebody flips you off because you, you know,  it's all,  that's what it was meant, that's  what that moment was meant to happen.  However it plays out, you know?  Right, like are you going to invent a story in your mind about guy's such an asshole, he be super pissed off about it and dwell on it, make it ruin your day, or you're gonna laugh and think it's funny. Like, all right, dude. Or if you have the opportunity, maybe you'd be like, what's up, dude? Why are we having this problem, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Or like, them off back, right? Right. Right. You could do that. That's a good one. That's a choice. It's your body. But it's all about like your life and what you're going to bring to that situation. Mm hmm. I appreciate you all hanging out with us this week. Yeah, so fun. think we can do quarterly. Let's do that. We're in the we're in the we're in the fourth month of the year. Wait, so yeah, we're doing it again in August. OK. June July. August feels more due. We could do July. You got a wedding to do? Yeah, Yeah, when you busy or something like that? Were you going on a honeymoon or something? He married in June. Should we go by July? Totally. No, is fine. He plans on staying. plans on couple months. In a nest.  That's they say.  Yeah, I appreciate you all hanging out this this week. If you guys want to follow the podcast.  Do you guys follow us? Yeah, absolutely. Go straight to our website. Call me out if you didn't.  Dualitycheck.net. It's got a one stop shop for everything. uh Our podcast. You guys can check out the tags. It'll link every episode that we talk about certain items.  I UFOs are still a top. Yeah, I think so.  then, yeah, there you um go.  Bashar's pretty high up there. He's one of the channelers, think.  Amy's probably familiar with what's talking about it.  I another channeler recently. Really?  There's a few that I haven't,  I've watched a few, but Bashar's my guy. Can't cheat on Bashar.   You  guys can find our podcast anywhere you guys get podcasts. If you guys want to watch our podcast, this one's not going to be a video,  but all of our other ones are now, um where you can see everything we're seeing. You can see us  usually in our new studio.  We're kind of chilling on a couch and we're just recording this video for posterity. Right, John? Posterity.  And  yeah, if you guys want to follow us on YouTube or Rumble, that's where you can find the video.  Like, comment, subscribe. That stuff helps. Come on, Chad.  Yeah, help us out, chat.  You guys can  spread the love to other people. Yeah.  We'll see you all next week.  Thanks for hanging out. Thank you.