1 00:00:13,602 --> 00:00:16,210 I almost took life for 2 00:00:29,624 --> 00:00:33,394 I'm took to class for true 3 00:00:40,980 --> 00:00:46,362 and the uncharted frontiers of spirituality. Join us as we explore the wonders of our world 4 00:00:46,362 --> 00:00:52,215 and beyond, all while embracing the roles of curious bystanders rather than experts. Together 5 00:00:52,215 --> 00:00:57,547 we'll unravel the tapestry of existence, blending the dichotomies of knowledge and wonder. Get 6 00:00:57,547 --> 00:01:02,700 ready to question, ponder, and delve into the dualities that shape our understanding of reality 7 00:01:02,700 --> 00:01:15,474 on Duality Check. I'm Drew. I'm Dean. And welcome to episode 99.5. 99 and a half. And 8 00:01:15,474 --> 00:01:22,754 yeah, sorry for missing the last update, but we had recorded a sibling podcast. Yeah. Well, 9 00:01:22,774 --> 00:01:28,694 we thought we recorded a sibling podcast. We did get the video. We got the video and we 10 00:01:28,694 --> 00:01:34,522 got the music track, but none of the vocal tracks. Yeah, unfortunately. But yeah, we're going 11 00:01:34,522 --> 00:01:38,703 to do that again. So this is kind of our in between. We wanted that to be our hundredth 12 00:01:38,703 --> 00:01:44,885 episode. Yeah. So maybe we'll do a little mini episode today. Just talk about a couple of 13 00:01:44,885 --> 00:01:51,447 things. Yeah, because a lot's gone on in the last few months or a month or so, I guess. 14 00:01:51,647 --> 00:02:00,455 So, so far still no like big overall no alien invasion or anything that we know of. Yeah. 15 00:02:00,455 --> 00:02:06,744 No, it's not like a rival. uh Yeah, it's not like there was some crazy thing about to happen 16 00:02:06,864 --> 00:02:13,577 on the very day Chris Bledsoe predicted. So yeah, we're well past Easter now. So unless 17 00:02:13,577 --> 00:02:20,680 we're going back to the end of the year timeline or the next year, either way. The one thing 18 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:28,403 I wanted to doubt, I didn't even think to look at until now, was whether the star of Regulus 19 00:02:28,403 --> 00:02:34,973 rose in the eye of the Sphinx on that day. You know, that's a good point. anybody got a picture 20 00:02:34,973 --> 00:02:39,555 of it or something. Maybe we'll some digging on a break. Yeah, you would think someone 21 00:02:39,555 --> 00:02:44,927 would be... I feel like we would have seen it too. Yeah. Just because our algorithms are 22 00:02:44,927 --> 00:02:52,671 probably... Cool. Well... Yeah, we got a few things to share with you all and talk about. 23 00:02:52,671 --> 00:03:05,078 uh yeah. So we actually got a comment. He said, good subjects. You guys were probably 24 00:03:05,078 --> 00:03:09,832 burning some quality stuff before the show. Love the stash. Great show, fellas. Keep it 25 00:03:09,832 --> 00:03:25,035 up. Nice. This is oath. oh Oath of or something like that. Oath of F. Yeah. Cool. Thanks, man. 26 00:03:25,035 --> 00:03:36,041 Appreciate it. Appreciate it. um Cool. So did you share this? Maybe. I think I did. Yeah. 27 00:03:36,041 --> 00:03:40,984 Okay. I remember seeing this. I saw him and a couple other people talking about this other 28 00:03:40,984 --> 00:03:46,967 Sphinx discovery. There's other people too. Yeah. But I haven't dug into it. I haven't 29 00:03:46,967 --> 00:03:52,740 actually watched it yet. I wanted to watch it together. Okay. This is a 14 minutes. Jay 30 00:03:52,740 --> 00:04:01,305 Anderson. uh Project Unity. Project Unity on X. says, breaking new Giza Plateau scans 31 00:04:01,305 --> 00:04:08,514 locate second Sphinx. Could a giant mount of compacted sand in the Giza Plateau be hiding 32 00:04:08,514 --> 00:04:18,192 the legendary second great sphinx of Giza? The new SAR slash Doppler scans from the Khafre 33 00:04:18,192 --> 00:04:25,307 pyramid project suggest this could be the exact location. All right, let's check this out. 34 00:04:25,328 --> 00:04:30,722 Professor Filippo Bionde, a satellite radar specialist with a background in radar with 35 00:04:30,722 --> 00:04:36,034 the Italian government, sat down with Matt Beale and stated that he had found a second Great 36 00:04:36,034 --> 00:04:44,934 Sphinx on Giza buried beneath a 180-foot mound of compacted sand on the plateau. Horizontal 37 00:04:44,934 --> 00:04:49,954 passageways extending from deeper underground sections both show shafts that are descending 38 00:04:49,954 --> 00:04:55,254 down to depth, they both show horizontal tunnel systems extending outward, and they both show 39 00:04:55,254 --> 00:04:57,074 the same geometric internal arrangement. 40 00:05:08,556 --> 00:05:13,808 So what I was told quietly in Malta when I was with Filippo Bionde and the rest of the Capra 41 00:05:13,808 --> 00:05:19,619 pyramid team has now been disclosed on Matt Beale's Limitless podcast, which I was also 42 00:05:19,619 --> 00:05:24,740 on recently. Links for that are in the description box. But this time it was my friend, Professor 43 00:05:24,740 --> 00:05:31,223 Filippo Bionde on the podcast. And he sent the internet into a frenzy over recent scans pointing 44 00:05:31,223 --> 00:05:38,117 towards what could be a second Sphinx on the Giza Plateau. Professor Filippo Bionde, a satellite 45 00:05:38,117 --> 00:05:42,860 radar specialist with a background in radar with the Italian government, sat down with 46 00:05:42,860 --> 00:05:50,694 Matt Beale and stated that he had found a second great sphinx on Giza buried beneath a 180-foot 47 00:05:50,775 --> 00:05:57,578 mound of compacted sand on the plateau and that the geometric precision of its alignment with 48 00:05:57,578 --> 00:06:04,522 the known sphinx and the pyramid of Caffray was, in his exact words, 100%. Here's what 49 00:06:04,522 --> 00:06:10,724 makes the story genuinely extraordinary. The idea of a second sphinx is not new and it 50 00:06:10,724 --> 00:06:19,486 did not originate in 2026. It goes back 4,500 years. It was woven into the oldest strata 51 00:06:19,486 --> 00:06:25,688 of Egyptian theology. It's mentioned in medieval Islamic scholarship. It was discussed by Greek 52 00:06:25,728 --> 00:06:33,206 and Roman travelers. It's been pursued by independent Egyptologists for decades. And in 2026, It 53 00:06:33,206 --> 00:06:39,888 acquired for the first time a body of satellite data, a geometric coordinate and a researcher 54 00:06:39,888 --> 00:06:46,020 prepared to attach his professional reputation to a specific location. Hit that subscribe 55 00:06:46,020 --> 00:06:50,602 button. Please just whack that subscribe button with your finger right now. That's the best 56 00:06:50,602 --> 00:06:55,323 way to support me. Drop a comment below in the comment section, like the video, share the 57 00:06:55,323 --> 00:07:00,316 video online, but above all else, Hit that subscribe button, make sure you tickle that notification 58 00:07:00,316 --> 00:07:06,772 bell. Do that for us too. also support him, yeah, he's got some great content. twin sphinx, 59 00:07:06,772 --> 00:07:12,907 into its understanding of the universe, Aqir was one of the most ancient gods in the entire 60 00:07:12,907 --> 00:07:19,703 Egyptian pantheon. First depicted in the reign of Pharaoh Dier, fourth king of the first dynasty, 61 00:07:19,703 --> 00:07:26,719 placing him at the very dawn of dynastic Egyptian civilization around 3000 BC. He was the god 62 00:07:26,719 --> 00:07:31,973 of the horizon, the earth and the threshold of the underworld. His role was to guard the 63 00:07:31,973 --> 00:07:38,318 passage of the sun god Ra through the Djuat, the underworld, each night and to release him 64 00:07:38,318 --> 00:07:44,683 again at dawn. His iconography is the key to everything. Aqir was depicted not as a single 65 00:07:44,683 --> 00:07:51,839 creature but as two recumbent lion torsos merged together, sitting back to back, each facing 66 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:57,403 an opposite horizon. By the Middle Kingdom, He was firmly established as a pair of twin 67 00:07:57,403 --> 00:08:04,637 lions, one named Duage, Tomorrow, and the other, Cephei, Yesterday. The two lions sat back to 68 00:08:04,637 --> 00:08:11,230 back with a sundisk, or the hieroglyph for horizon, placed between them. The Egyptian Museum in 69 00:08:11,230 --> 00:08:18,034 Cairo houses several artifacts depicting this precisely. This aligns with the belief of individuals 70 00:08:18,034 --> 00:08:24,118 like Graham Hancock that the Sphinx was originally a lion, orientated towards the constellation 71 00:08:24,118 --> 00:08:31,716 of Leo. modified by later cultures into a sphinx. If true, the sphinx or more accurately lion 72 00:08:31,936 --> 00:08:39,438 would go back to roughly 10,500 BC. So could the twin sphinx or the twin lion be hiding 73 00:08:39,438 --> 00:08:45,740 underneath that mound? And imagine if it was discovered in lion form. That would be extremely 74 00:08:45,740 --> 00:08:50,942 provocative evidence for the sphinx being altered by ancient Egyptian cultures, but the twin 75 00:08:50,942 --> 00:08:58,860 lions likely existed long before crazy alignment there in later dynastic represent. Yeah. The 76 00:08:58,860 --> 00:09:08,574 alignment's pretty cool. em They show that representation of how the geometry of the shadow of the big 77 00:09:08,574 --> 00:09:18,694 sphinx pointing to that new potential sphinx. Yeah, I wonder, he... What more do they have? 78 00:09:18,794 --> 00:09:24,294 Is it just that sort of rough scan data yet? I wonder if anyone's already putting together 79 00:09:24,294 --> 00:09:29,501 any excavation plans. I'm sure that would take some time. Yeah, mean, everything there is 80 00:09:29,501 --> 00:09:35,938 going to move at the snail's pace. But if they can produce any kind of like really good 81 00:09:36,038 --> 00:09:45,734 photographic imagery, that would be cool. you want to watch this whole thing or? We don't 82 00:09:45,734 --> 00:09:54,102 have to. We can jump ahead. Okay. That's sweet. I'm going to, I want to look into more of this 83 00:09:54,102 --> 00:10:01,442 then. Cause if this is legit, that's, that's a huge deal. And he's right. Yeah. If that 84 00:10:01,442 --> 00:10:07,342 comes out with a lion head that definitely supports the idea that the other one had one as well. 85 00:10:07,782 --> 00:10:15,202 Yeah. If it's buried in its entirety, like the Sphinx was, if it's actually buried or if there's 86 00:10:15,202 --> 00:10:22,474 just a footprint of where it might have been. Yeah. Right, right. But that would be cool 87 00:10:22,474 --> 00:10:30,198 if it came out entirely in our lifetime, which probably wouldn't maybe when we're older. 88 00:10:30,198 --> 00:10:37,892 Yeah, it's a long to say. I mean, maybe we'll get higher quality scans that'll make it. Yeah, 89 00:10:38,173 --> 00:10:45,427 Pretty obvious. And what if we don't feel like someone could just do a flyover with LiDAR, 90 00:10:45,427 --> 00:10:54,049 you know? or the new ones you where it is because the aperture radar beyond these scans. I don't 91 00:10:54,049 --> 00:10:59,116 think you're going to get the resolution you get if with like a near flyover light. But 92 00:10:59,116 --> 00:11:10,670 uh Either way, yeah, I'd like to see more detailed skins. of the Red Star Regulus was meant to 93 00:11:10,710 --> 00:11:18,144 rise in the other Sphinx's gaze? Ooh. So they're looking at the wrong part of the sky. Or a 94 00:11:18,144 --> 00:11:23,737 different time period. Yeah. That would change Because he said that the reason he changed 95 00:11:23,737 --> 00:11:31,751 his date, or there was some discrepancy in the date, was because they asked researchers 96 00:11:31,751 --> 00:11:37,282 when this would happen. And if it's rising in the gaze of that Sphinx, it's this time. But 97 00:11:37,282 --> 00:11:41,042 if it's in the other Sphinx, maybe it's at a different time in It would be at least six 98 00:11:41,042 --> 00:11:47,302 months different because the Earth would have to be facing the other direction. Right. So 99 00:11:47,302 --> 00:11:54,782 it could be six months off if that was the case. And imagine they excavate it quick enough or 100 00:11:54,782 --> 00:12:04,997 even in the next few years. So maybe the 2027 date isn't as... as false as it may have seemed. 101 00:12:05,137 --> 00:12:09,810 Right. But here we go, perpetuating it. 102 00:12:13,004 --> 00:12:21,280 Have you seen all these fireball things that have been falling? Check this out. No. All 103 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:27,499 of a sudden there's fireballs across Ohio and the rest of the world. A six foot, 15,000 104 00:12:27,499 --> 00:12:33,660 pound chunk of Asteroid 4 Vesta hit Earth's atmosphere over Cleveland last week and it 105 00:12:33,660 --> 00:12:38,253 burned up in the atmosphere sending little chunks of space rock all around Ohio. And then just 106 00:12:38,253 --> 00:12:45,794 yesterday, Earth hit about 97,000 pounds worth of stuff in space and almost all of it burned 107 00:12:45,794 --> 00:12:50,530 up and vaporized in the atmosphere. And that's because That actually happens every day. Earth 108 00:12:50,530 --> 00:12:56,490 is constantly slamming into debris and space as it orbits the sun, but these are extra bright. 109 00:12:56,650 --> 00:13:01,350 They're called fireballs. Fireball meteors hit Earth every day, but the vast majority of them 110 00:13:01,350 --> 00:13:06,650 are over the oceans or uninhabited areas because that's most of Earth. And some of them are 111 00:13:06,650 --> 00:13:12,510 masked by the sun as well. But scientists predicted that we would see these huge fireball meteors 112 00:13:12,510 --> 00:13:17,410 this week, and that's because, for a reason that scientists aren't 100 % sure about yet, 113 00:13:17,742 --> 00:13:23,022 every year around the vernal equinox, these fireball meteor occurrences increase by about 114 00:13:23,022 --> 00:13:28,502 30%. The vernal equinox was last week. So that's why we're seeing more hit earth right now. 115 00:13:28,502 --> 00:13:33,082 But also everybody has a phone and a security camera and a dash cam. So we have way more 116 00:13:33,082 --> 00:13:38,002 eyes on the sky right now, but it's fine. It's cool. It's normal, but your wishes on a shooting 117 00:13:38,002 --> 00:13:45,162 star probably have to mean more. So that's one video with some examples. This was another 118 00:13:45,162 --> 00:13:46,182 really cool one. 119 00:14:00,046 --> 00:14:07,993 That's pretty sick. It looks like she's in front of a pyramid too. Dude, right? uh Yeah, I mean, 120 00:14:07,993 --> 00:14:13,846 it's probably just a house or a barn or something. But yeah, either way. Just the look of it. 121 00:14:13,846 --> 00:14:19,930 Right. ah And then feel like I've seen that one a long time ago, though. That one specifically. 122 00:14:20,182 --> 00:14:27,095 I don't. Yeah. Or something. But it could be it just popped up again based on these happening. 123 00:14:27,095 --> 00:14:36,246 But uh this is a dude from Space Weather News. I forget his name. uh Let's uh, he talks about 124 00:14:36,246 --> 00:14:41,498 these. Let's check this out Hello everyone. This is just a quick message I am here at observer 125 00:14:41,498 --> 00:14:48,490 ranch and I'm gonna have to go be me in just a second, but this deserves a quick word About 126 00:14:48,490 --> 00:14:55,672 all of the meteors being seen right now Most of them are not meteors Interestingly this 127 00:14:55,672 --> 00:15:04,560 whole fervor began with the Ohio meteor explosion, which was a meteor followed by a double SpaceX 128 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:11,723 launch, two in the same day, visible from 22 different states. And since then, there have 129 00:15:11,723 --> 00:15:17,837 been several other fireballs, as most of you know. It would be very easy for me as a space 130 00:15:17,837 --> 00:15:23,010 weather guy, meteors are part of space weather, to jump on this and get a bunch of views. 131 00:15:23,010 --> 00:15:26,963 Given the fact that there is extra material coming with the galactic current sheet and 132 00:15:26,963 --> 00:15:32,196 we have been noticing it, it has been detected in the form of extra dust by event horizons 133 00:15:32,196 --> 00:15:37,207 out past Pluto, all the way to the solar corona. would be very easy for me to jump on this and 134 00:15:37,207 --> 00:15:41,139 say, could this be the galactic current sheet? Scare you a little bit, get a bunch of clicks 135 00:15:41,139 --> 00:15:46,411 that way. The fact of the matter is I know meteors. I know what we should be expecting. 136 00:15:46,511 --> 00:15:51,203 These things are not meteors. They are moving far too slowly to be meteors. If you watch 137 00:15:51,203 --> 00:15:58,996 them, you will see that is the case. uh UAP landing craft uh destroyed spy satellites. 138 00:16:00,477 --> 00:16:05,804 This is something that was in orbit. Okay, these are not meteors. This is something that has, 139 00:16:06,222 --> 00:16:12,781 it was either already in orbit or it slowed down and then entered our atmosphere. These 140 00:16:12,781 --> 00:16:20,459 are not meteors. And so these are either UAPs or we are witnessing the greatest AI video 141 00:16:20,459 --> 00:16:27,436 hoax in history. I will admit, I am not the best when it comes to noticing AI videos, but. 142 00:16:28,192 --> 00:16:32,876 I think at this point it's fairly safe to say everybody agrees that there are a ton of these 143 00:16:32,876 --> 00:16:38,321 fireball sightings and at least the vast majority of them are not AI. There are enough of them 144 00:16:38,321 --> 00:16:43,656 out there. NASA is even mentioning, hey, we have an uptick. And I'm telling you that 145 00:16:43,656 --> 00:16:48,801 the explanation that would normally be given, which I said several days ago that in the spring 146 00:16:48,801 --> 00:16:56,761 to summertime, there should be an uptick in meteors that happens every single year. What 147 00:16:56,761 --> 00:17:00,793 we're seeing now aren't meteors. This is something else. 148 00:17:03,992 --> 00:17:13,570 So yeah, he's saying they moved too slowly. Interesting. Which kind of lines up with 149 00:17:13,570 --> 00:17:19,675 that, the video we just watched of the girl and the crazy one going across the sky. Cause 150 00:17:19,675 --> 00:17:25,029 that lingered there for a while. That's true. I think they probably slowed that video down 151 00:17:25,029 --> 00:17:31,274 a little bit too, but it definitely looks slower than like what you would think of. Or even 152 00:17:31,274 --> 00:17:37,002 the one from Ohio that it showed. Right. the other video, the first one we watched. It definitely 153 00:17:37,002 --> 00:17:44,462 felt slower. Because we're talking meteor speeds. We're talking tens of thousands of miles an 154 00:17:44,462 --> 00:17:54,922 hour. Like very, very, very fast. It'd be interesting to hear that we're taking out freaking AIs 155 00:17:54,922 --> 00:18:04,346 or enemy. like satellite warfare going on, especially with the Iran war and everything. 156 00:18:04,362 --> 00:18:13,810 Right. That would be interesting if that was the case. um Space is the next frontier. Information 157 00:18:13,810 --> 00:18:24,521 data, if you're gathering that with a satellite using spacecraft. interesting thing. Yeah. 158 00:18:24,521 --> 00:18:30,187 So you brought this one. What's a Rep. Tim Burchett? Yeah. So this is one of his most 159 00:18:30,187 --> 00:18:38,956 recent kind of uh interviews that he said a lot more about what he knows or is seeming 160 00:18:38,956 --> 00:18:46,742 to know. Right. I'll just read this here. This is from at Interstellar UAP on X. Breaking 161 00:18:46,742 --> 00:18:53,275 news, Congressman Tim Burchett just dropped a bombshell. Aliens are real and there's 162 00:18:53,275 --> 00:19:00,598 been human contact. He revealed a classified briefing where a source looked him dead in 163 00:19:00,598 --> 00:19:08,452 the eye and said, Tim, they're real. Burchett confirmed a form of life that is not earthly, 164 00:19:08,712 --> 00:19:17,346 plus both uh life and machinery. He described underwater crafts being big as a football field, 165 00:19:17,406 --> 00:19:24,106 moving at over 200 miles per hour. It's pretty wild, but he's not backing down. Do you believe 166 00:19:24,106 --> 00:19:31,526 him? Are we alone or have they been here all along? What would you do if full disclosure 167 00:19:31,526 --> 00:19:40,463 dropped tomorrow? Listen to this, yeah, let's check out this video. You see, now I guess 168 00:19:40,463 --> 00:19:47,517 it would be about two weeks ago, um that was very alarming, the way you said that at least. 169 00:19:47,837 --> 00:19:53,970 Yeah, well because of the circumstances and where it was, I can't get into too much specifics, 170 00:19:53,970 --> 00:20:00,444 but it um was elaborating on some stuff that we'd asked for and it was important to get 171 00:20:00,444 --> 00:20:04,216 this person in a secure setting to where we could ask him these questions and there was, 172 00:20:05,144 --> 00:20:10,879 There was somebody in the meeting with us, one of my colleagues, I guess you'd say, was basically 173 00:20:10,879 --> 00:20:16,244 there just to kind of upset the apple cart and to throw a monkey wrench into the deal. And 174 00:20:16,244 --> 00:20:24,651 every time the question was asked by this particular party, was really the answers were out there 175 00:20:24,771 --> 00:20:29,716 and they gave them, and they gave specifics, they gave addresses, they gave times and dates 176 00:20:29,856 --> 00:20:33,844 and people that were in the meeting. And this went all the way up. to the executive branch 177 00:20:33,844 --> 00:20:41,838 of previous presidents, not this current president. So there have been different reports over 178 00:20:41,838 --> 00:20:48,000 the years, some reports that there have been pieces of machinery that were found that did 179 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:58,024 not seem earthly. And then there have been reports about uh life that is not earthly. Which one 180 00:20:58,024 --> 00:21:05,932 of those two or both are you talking about? a form of life that is not earthly or of just 181 00:21:05,932 --> 00:21:12,197 something mechanical that's not earthly? I'd say you'd be safe to say both. The way you 182 00:21:12,197 --> 00:21:18,422 described this, whatever happened at this meeting, this briefing that was happening, was there 183 00:21:18,422 --> 00:21:24,146 something that if we knew, we would feel that we are in danger? You said you'd be, you wouldn't 184 00:21:24,146 --> 00:21:29,590 sleep at night if you knew the things that I saw in these briefings. Yeah, I Should we believe 185 00:21:29,590 --> 00:21:35,382 that- That's that's the part where was alarming. I don't think we're at we're at danger of this 186 00:21:35,382 --> 00:21:41,325 I mean these things Exist as I think they do and they could have destroyed us and there 187 00:21:41,325 --> 00:21:48,018 was a blink of an eye I just don't see that and I think that's I just think but I saw 188 00:21:48,018 --> 00:21:52,920 but I do think they have the technology and the capabilities of Something that we can't 189 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:58,866 understand or we can't grasp what I want to make sure I'm understanding is a member of 190 00:21:58,886 --> 00:22:08,996 our government has told you m and others, I guess, that there is a form of alien life 191 00:22:08,996 --> 00:22:19,165 and machinery which maybe brought this living creature here that interacted in some form 192 00:22:19,325 --> 00:22:27,461 with people? Yeah, they have. they've, it's just, It's pretty wild, I know, I know. But 193 00:22:27,461 --> 00:22:30,772 if I'm just telling you, I'm not gonna lie to you, I'd take a lie to you, you won't put me 194 00:22:30,772 --> 00:22:36,655 on a polygraph, I'll take it. But this is what the guy told me. I I've had a very high ranking 195 00:22:36,655 --> 00:22:42,357 naval official describe, I've talked about this before, underwater craft, something big as 196 00:22:42,357 --> 00:22:47,630 a football field moving at over 200 miles an hour. And there's no fish in the ocean that 197 00:22:47,630 --> 00:22:53,048 would do that. We don't even have a sub that'll probably do 40 miles an hour under the. And 198 00:22:53,048 --> 00:22:57,561 the last thing he said before he left my office was, it was kind of weird because he didn't 199 00:22:57,561 --> 00:23:02,100 go out the, he went out the side doors, nobody ever uses. And he looked at me, he pulled 200 00:23:02,100 --> 00:23:06,215 me up close and he said, Tim, they're real. And that's the last thing he said to me. That'll 201 00:23:06,215 --> 00:23:10,968 be the title of my book, I guess. Matt Gaetz was involved in something here just recently. 202 00:23:10,968 --> 00:23:18,822 He was interviewed and he talked about this interbreeding thing with, you Yeah, no, we 203 00:23:18,822 --> 00:23:24,998 saw that. We saw that. Well, you know, that was a. That's a true story. That was a military 204 00:23:24,998 --> 00:23:32,158 personnel. I think that would be a good story to talk to him about if you all can do that. 205 00:23:32,178 --> 00:23:37,378 Right, he says he learned that from someone in the military. Yeah, absolutely. It was a 206 00:23:37,378 --> 00:23:45,958 guy, it was an officer in uniform. Matt and Representative Luna, we all went down to Florida, 207 00:23:46,318 --> 00:23:52,278 you know, and we were turned away. And then... Matt made a phone call to somebody at the Pentagon 208 00:23:52,278 --> 00:23:55,478 and all of a sudden they opened the doors and brought the pilots in that were supposed to 209 00:23:55,478 --> 00:24:00,538 tell us the story in the first place. And he can probably elaborate a little bit more on 210 00:24:00,538 --> 00:24:07,898 that. But that was pretty fantastic. That was a made for TV special right there in itself. 211 00:24:12,352 --> 00:24:22,714 Yeah, it's pretty wild. Yeah. And there's a skepticism about whether they're feeding 212 00:24:22,714 --> 00:24:30,899 him information so that because they know he'll be the either he's in on it or that he's 213 00:24:31,420 --> 00:24:36,663 just the kind of like useful idiot like he's willing to talk about it. Tim Burchett? Yeah. 214 00:24:36,743 --> 00:24:41,306 That's why there are people who are saying that is what I'm Well, I mean, there has been. 215 00:24:41,306 --> 00:24:47,608 uh over the last number of years, a number of these whistleblowers and supposedly a number 216 00:24:47,608 --> 00:24:55,590 of these skiff interviews that have happened after the public hearings, right? Right. 217 00:24:55,590 --> 00:25:01,311 uh And I assume they haven't just like dropped the topic and then they're following up with 218 00:25:01,311 --> 00:25:09,213 further interviews and stuff. So, I mean, he's in a position to have had these meetings. 219 00:25:09,213 --> 00:25:19,722 Yeah. Experiences. The question is, yeah. Is it all verifiable and real? Sure, sure. And 220 00:25:19,722 --> 00:25:26,462 what was interesting though is when he said he mentioned the underwater crafts, the USOs, 221 00:25:27,482 --> 00:25:36,122 unidentified submersible object or whatever, moving over at 200 miles an hour. Underwater. 222 00:25:36,142 --> 00:25:42,658 Underwater. Where none of our stuff football field size thing. moving that fast under the 223 00:25:42,658 --> 00:25:50,358 water. And then it reminded me of the Y-Files just had, he did a podcast, one of his basement 224 00:25:50,358 --> 00:26:02,598 podcasts with a guest and he had Mark Dantonio, who's like a, he's like a engineer and a astronomer. 225 00:26:03,918 --> 00:26:09,598 I mean, I think I have it pulled up. So yeah, he's an astronomer specializing in exoplanets. 226 00:26:09,792 --> 00:26:16,858 Mufon's chief photo and video analyst and the CEO of FX models. So he makes visual effects 227 00:26:16,858 --> 00:26:26,736 for Hollywood. um And he's, you know, pretty well known in the, in that space. And it says 228 00:26:26,736 --> 00:26:33,432 he co-developed an advanced UFO detection system alongside Douglas Trumbull, who's another, 229 00:26:33,432 --> 00:26:41,195 you know, visualist effects guy. He did stuff like the 2001 space Odyssey. and encounters, 230 00:26:41,195 --> 00:26:45,596 close encounters with the third kind and Blade Runner. You can just hear the skeptics say, 231 00:26:45,697 --> 00:26:51,809 and so we're supposed to trust a bunch of visual effects guys to... Well, so he wasn't actually 232 00:26:51,809 --> 00:26:57,467 saying anything about that specifically, but what he did say is that he was invited aboard 233 00:26:57,467 --> 00:27:05,965 a submarine m and he was doing it for a video or for a movie. Oh, okay. So he was going as 234 00:27:05,965 --> 00:27:11,811 research for like a movie and like how to like... make what it is that they do on a submarine, 235 00:27:11,811 --> 00:27:17,172 look real in, you know, all that kind of stuff. Yeah. How do you build a set? How do you the 236 00:27:17,172 --> 00:27:22,584 special effects? What are the physics? was at the time already part of the move on, you know, 237 00:27:22,584 --> 00:27:28,595 stuff in like in that world. And he had his own encounters at a young age too. And then 238 00:27:28,595 --> 00:27:32,677 later in his life as well. So it's an interesting podcast. You should listen to the whole thing. 239 00:27:32,677 --> 00:27:44,644 uh But they go on this submarine and I guess there's at some point in the trip, they said 240 00:27:44,644 --> 00:27:50,867 like alarm, like not alarms, but like, when they talk over the intercom on this chip, everybody 241 00:27:50,867 --> 00:27:56,160 stops and listens and they are like, what's going on? So they announce on this intercom 242 00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,763 and everybody stops to listen. So it's kind of like, if you're not used to that, it's kind 243 00:28:00,763 --> 00:28:07,322 of jarring like, well, what's going on? And they guess over the intercom, they said, everybody 244 00:28:07,322 --> 00:28:11,962 to their stations, la la la, something, you know, there. And then what he heard, cause 245 00:28:11,962 --> 00:28:16,322 where he was sitting was where the captain sits, or the whatever they call him, the Admiral. 246 00:28:17,382 --> 00:28:22,102 And he was like, you know, showing them around. He was kind of like their special guest on 247 00:28:22,102 --> 00:28:26,782 board. So he's kind of like right there in that vicinity. And I guess one of the, you know, 248 00:28:26,902 --> 00:28:33,191 crew members on their station was like, we've got a fast mover. Moving hundreds of miles 249 00:28:33,211 --> 00:28:40,123 or uh hundreds of knots is what the terms they used. And everybody acted like it was 250 00:28:40,123 --> 00:28:44,705 normal. Like it was just another thing that happened there. And he's like saying that he's 251 00:28:44,705 --> 00:28:49,686 sitting there freaking out. Cause it's like everybody's like on edge, but he's the only 252 00:28:49,686 --> 00:28:55,978 one on edge really. And everybody else is kind of like business as usual. uh And yeah, he 253 00:28:55,978 --> 00:29:00,880 said it was like a distinct thing for him. Like they said, something is moving at hundreds 254 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:06,821 of knots under the ocean that they're detecting. he thought it was going to be like a torpedo 255 00:29:06,821 --> 00:29:13,563 or like something like he thought were under attack, you know? Yeah. What moves that fast? 256 00:29:13,563 --> 00:29:20,886 And they just seemed normal about it. I guess the anecdote he had was like that he uh stood 257 00:29:20,886 --> 00:29:27,118 up thinking in that moment. Like, oh, I can help you with figuring out what this is, because 258 00:29:27,118 --> 00:29:33,034 I'm an astronomer and I have all these accolades as far as MUFON and this and that. I can help 259 00:29:33,034 --> 00:29:38,128 you identify it. And I guess the person in charge just kind of looked at him and said, are you 260 00:29:38,128 --> 00:29:43,034 having a good time? And he's like, yeah, I'm having a good time. He's like, then sit down 261 00:29:43,034 --> 00:29:49,918 and we'll keep it that way. And he's like, oh, okay. And then they just were like business 262 00:29:49,918 --> 00:29:54,106 as usual, but they were the terms they were using in the the numbers they were using seemed 263 00:29:54,106 --> 00:30:01,526 so like hundreds of nautical miles per hour. It's interesting. Tidbit, especially hearing 264 00:30:01,526 --> 00:30:06,706 that, like if that's a normal occurrence for the Navy, like maybe we should be hearing more 265 00:30:06,706 --> 00:30:12,286 about what the Navy is discovering and seeing down underwater. Right. Instead of just like 266 00:30:12,286 --> 00:30:19,086 the Air Force or, you know, anybody in the air. And it makes sense to like to combine as much 267 00:30:19,086 --> 00:30:26,723 travel as possible. Like, If there's some sort of entities that are stationed here, what 268 00:30:26,724 --> 00:30:33,610 better place than underwater if you don't want to really come across our radar very often. 269 00:30:33,610 --> 00:30:39,276 Or even just be sighted by the average person, right? Because if you're entering and exiting 270 00:30:39,276 --> 00:30:44,861 a planet and you've already established yourself here, the ocean is so big, like you saw that 271 00:30:44,861 --> 00:30:49,269 picture earlier. where you could look at just one side of the globe and it's all blue ocean. 272 00:30:49,269 --> 00:30:54,410 Like you can't see land. Yeah, like if you look from the center of the Pacific side. m You 273 00:30:54,410 --> 00:30:59,462 just can't see any land, just the bits on the edge, right? Like if you're coming in and 274 00:30:59,462 --> 00:31:04,473 out on a regular basis, that's the perfect place to enter and exit our atmosphere. And then 275 00:31:04,473 --> 00:31:10,795 travel under the water. Yeah, do the majority of your actual travel here underwater, undetected. 276 00:31:10,795 --> 00:31:17,198 And then maybe sometimes you got things that will take you other routes, but you can 277 00:31:17,198 --> 00:31:21,752 keep that to a minimum. Right. So if you're going to, if you're actually here and established 278 00:31:21,752 --> 00:31:27,947 and there's more than what we may assume based on the sightings we've seen, right. And the 279 00:31:27,947 --> 00:31:33,162 actual physical interactions that have been had on earth, at least though we sorta know 280 00:31:33,162 --> 00:31:40,968 about a lot of it can be happening underwater. Right. And that would be the best place. Yeah. 281 00:31:40,968 --> 00:31:50,785 Um, We know there's a lot of fishermen who've had sightings too. Yeah. think a lot of coastal 282 00:31:50,785 --> 00:32:00,960 towns in general. There's the Catalina Island stuff off the coast of California. uh That's 283 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:07,694 around where David Fravor was on their ship off the coast of San Diego. Obviously, that's 284 00:32:07,694 --> 00:32:15,369 a little further north, that area, general area. It's interesting. I want to hear more 285 00:32:15,369 --> 00:32:26,440 and learn more about USOs. Hopefully we do. Richard, what's his name? The UFO history 286 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:34,823 guy, Richard Dolan. Yeah. He's writing a multi-volume history on USOs right now. think the first 287 00:32:34,823 --> 00:32:43,597 volume is out. Nice. Nice. If you want to dig into that. Dolan. Let's see. You also 288 00:32:43,597 --> 00:32:49,416 shared this. Yeah, these are some of the newest, clearest images of some of our planets in the 289 00:32:49,416 --> 00:32:57,412 solar system, and I just think it's fascinating to look at. Let's look through, ooh, Mercury. 290 00:32:57,412 --> 00:33:06,100 So it says a little bit about it on the side here. NASA just dropped some of the clearest 291 00:33:06,100 --> 00:33:12,276 images from the planets in our solar system. From the massive storms of Jupiter to the iconic 292 00:33:12,276 --> 00:33:19,393 rings of Saturn, these high-resolution views reveal details that were impossible to see 293 00:33:19,393 --> 00:33:25,819 just a few decades ago. Modern space telescopes and planetary missions are now capturing planets 294 00:33:25,819 --> 00:33:35,528 with insane clarity. Spots swirling cloud bands, giant storms larger than Earth, icy rings 295 00:33:35,528 --> 00:33:41,632 made of countless particles, and atmospheric patterns moving across entire worlds. Every 296 00:33:41,632 --> 00:33:47,266 new image reminds us that these planets are not just distant dots in the sky, but dynamic, 297 00:33:47,306 --> 00:33:55,111 evolving worlds. The solar system is far more detailed and complex than most people imagine, 298 00:33:55,232 --> 00:34:01,701 and every new observation scientists continue uncovering. structures, weather systems, and 299 00:34:01,701 --> 00:34:09,086 surface features that reshape what we know about our cosmic neighborhood. It's not doing one 300 00:34:09,086 --> 00:34:14,786 looks super cool. Your and this is just blank. It's not white. 301 00:34:18,999 --> 00:34:22,464 This Jupiter photo is super cool. looks like you can see Aurora. 302 00:34:29,058 --> 00:34:38,826 wonder about the coloration. I've always seen Jupiter depicted different colors. Yeah, like 303 00:34:39,367 --> 00:34:45,071 it's probably just whatever lens or whatever filter they might have on whatever the old 304 00:34:45,071 --> 00:34:52,718 cameras were. Yeah, this Venus one is super red. All these like channels. Yeah. 305 00:34:56,790 --> 00:35:05,946 And Mercury looks rad too. Looks like it's lit up by cities and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Very 306 00:35:05,946 --> 00:35:16,806 cool. Let's see. We watched this on our episode 100, but I just got a copy of the new S4 film. 307 00:35:17,086 --> 00:35:22,006 So why don't we watch the trailer together, just talk about it real quick. then hopefully 308 00:35:22,006 --> 00:35:28,066 we'll get together this week and watch it. Yeah, absolutely. talk about what we thought. Yeah, 309 00:35:28,066 --> 00:35:33,286 if we don't watch it with the siblings, we can watch it and just explain it to them. Yeah. 310 00:35:33,462 --> 00:35:35,639 So let's check out this trailer here. 311 00:36:03,902 --> 00:36:08,475 evidence now exists which proves that there is life elsewhere and at least one form of 312 00:36:08,475 --> 00:36:09,517 that life has been here. 313 00:36:12,558 --> 00:36:19,192 1989, that evidence was in the custody of the United States government. Between December 314 00:36:19,192 --> 00:36:24,926 of 1988 and April of 1989, I worked as a senior staff physicist in what has to be the most 315 00:36:24,926 --> 00:36:31,790 secret project in history. My job in this program was to be part of a back engineering team. 316 00:36:34,766 --> 00:36:39,568 This particular disc appeared to be in excellent condition and because of its sleek appearance 317 00:36:39,568 --> 00:36:46,719 I nicknamed it the Sport model. The goal in this program was to see if the technology of 318 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:52,929 the disk could be duplicated with Earth materials. To start up the reactor, of course, we need 319 00:36:52,929 --> 00:37:01,692 some element 115. In fact, you need 223 grams machined into a wedge like this. The program 320 00:37:01,692 --> 00:37:07,264 out at S4 consisted of three projects, Project Galileo, Project Sidekick, and Project Looking 321 00:37:07,264 --> 00:37:13,987 Glass. The file on top was Project Galileo. And as it turned out, that's the project that 322 00:37:14,028 --> 00:37:23,275 I was part of. And that clearly referred to reverse engineering. a recovered alien spacecraft. 323 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:31,563 just cannot be a secret from anyone, not just the American people, but the rest of the world. 324 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:44,676 All this stuff is something that happened to him. not who he is. doing everything they 325 00:37:44,676 --> 00:37:54,160 can to keep this information secret. That's incredible evidence. I saw on craft to do 326 00:37:54,160 --> 00:38:04,274 that, thanks to him. Now this story spills. And the world changed. 327 00:38:15,052 --> 00:38:24,406 Yeah, so they're using CGI and like, think AI tools and stuff to basically recreate all 328 00:38:24,406 --> 00:38:31,829 the descriptive like places to recreate S4, recreate the craft and all the descriptions 329 00:38:31,829 --> 00:38:37,611 of everything with Bob Lazar. Yeah. So you get a like as close of a feel to his story as possible. 330 00:38:38,172 --> 00:38:43,394 Yeah. He was recently on Joe Rogan with the director of this and they talked about how 331 00:38:43,394 --> 00:38:49,836 they were. the process of like, they mostly did it based off what he's already used and 332 00:38:49,836 --> 00:38:54,609 described in other podcasts and other forms of media. But then they brought him on board 333 00:38:54,609 --> 00:39:00,061 and were like showing him and he was just like, no, wouldn't have done this. And then he was 334 00:39:00,061 --> 00:39:05,243 kind of tweaking it and showing them like how things were actually, you know, situated and 335 00:39:05,243 --> 00:39:10,796 how things worked. then you saw the little hand scanner thing that they talked about. 336 00:39:11,566 --> 00:39:18,331 um on the last Joe Rogan episode that he had. Right. The first one with Jeremy Corbell. 337 00:39:18,331 --> 00:39:28,457 And I don't know if it was Jeremy or uh what's his face? Jamie. No, George Knapp, who said 338 00:39:28,457 --> 00:39:35,522 that they then like found the actual model of the hand scanner. I think it was on this show, 339 00:39:35,522 --> 00:39:41,869 no? On that podcast? it? I feel like it was. Like Jamie went and pulled it up. He pulled 340 00:39:41,869 --> 00:39:45,399 it up, Jamie, and he found it like on eBay or something. 341 00:39:48,410 --> 00:39:54,795 I'm excited to watch it. started watching it and it was late and I passed out. We should 342 00:39:54,795 --> 00:39:59,248 definitely do that this week. Yeah, we should just pick a night and watch it together. Yeah, 343 00:39:59,248 --> 00:40:04,082 I'll be so stoked to do that. ah Okay, you also brought this. 344 00:40:07,156 --> 00:40:13,178 Oh yeah, so this is an artist who's been having encounters since he was a child and has been 345 00:40:13,178 --> 00:40:20,611 drawing like recreations of the scenes of him having these encounters. Definitely looks 346 00:40:20,611 --> 00:40:32,067 like owl eyes there. Yeah, and they're uh pretty detailed for the style. Very cool. That one 347 00:40:32,067 --> 00:40:40,351 looks like classic ET. Yeah. From actual movie ET. But maybe that's like the mantid style 348 00:40:40,351 --> 00:40:47,405 head. Right, right. You got the short grays and the tall woman figure. That one's creepy 349 00:40:47,405 --> 00:40:52,998 looking. It looks like the same lady creature up top in the middle. Yeah. 350 00:40:56,770 --> 00:41:03,048 Same lady, same ET looking creature in both of those. And then you got like a Wookiee looking 351 00:41:03,048 --> 00:41:10,978 creature. Dude, do you think Wookiees are real? If they are, I was one of them. We were both 352 00:41:10,978 --> 00:41:20,604 one of them. So that one looks like almost like the description of what Chris Bloodsoe 353 00:41:20,604 --> 00:41:25,439 went through when he got taken out of it. Like he was in clothes and like pulled out of bed 354 00:41:25,439 --> 00:41:35,257 up into a craft and then went into the craft to go meet the lady. Right. Looks like they're 355 00:41:35,257 --> 00:41:39,831 doing some sort of surgery on his nose. Yeah, putting something in there, taking something 356 00:41:39,831 --> 00:41:40,042 out. 357 00:41:45,326 --> 00:41:53,326 Is this sort of sex thing going on there? And probably what it looks like in her eyes. 358 00:41:53,326 --> 00:42:02,887 Yeah. From up close. That would be trippy looking. Wookie coming at him, taking him to the ship. 359 00:42:10,274 --> 00:42:16,631 This looks like when he was younger, maybe. Yeah. David Huggins. 360 00:42:24,204 --> 00:42:29,126 Artist David Huggins says his encounters with extraterrestrials began when he was eight years 361 00:42:29,126 --> 00:42:34,738 old and continued throughout his life. He claims the experience included recurring visits and 362 00:42:34,738 --> 00:42:43,272 an emotional relationship with a female being he calls Crescent. Between 1990 and 2015, Huggins 363 00:42:43,272 --> 00:42:50,335 translated these memories into hundreds of paintings, presented them not as a science fiction, but 364 00:42:50,335 --> 00:42:59,289 as a personal documentation. The work show uh often show dim interiors, glowing moons, thin 365 00:42:59,289 --> 00:43:06,594 gray figures uh rendered in a direct almost childlike style that makes the scenes feel 366 00:43:06,594 --> 00:43:16,722 more intimate rather than cinematic. He has consistently described the paintings as autobiographical 367 00:43:16,722 --> 00:43:19,294 records of what he believes truly happened to him. 368 00:43:25,324 --> 00:43:31,153 Yeah, it's very interesting, especially based on some of the other people's descriptions 369 00:43:31,153 --> 00:43:41,875 and paintings of their own encounters, drawings. uh I've got an interesting video that got shared. 370 00:43:41,875 --> 00:43:49,170 Check this one out. What the fuck is that? What the fuck is that, bro? 371 00:43:55,726 --> 00:43:56,659 the fuck is that? 372 00:44:01,592 --> 00:44:04,370 shaped like a heart. Yeah. 373 00:44:09,358 --> 00:44:17,362 What bro? oh 374 00:44:28,098 --> 00:44:28,950 What the fuck? 375 00:44:35,054 --> 00:44:38,834 There's a light above it. Oh, there's lights coming on around it. Yeah. 376 00:44:44,227 --> 00:44:44,690 Go on. 377 00:45:02,558 --> 00:45:07,978 It's interesting how the shape changes a little bit as the perspective changes. Yeah. 378 00:45:13,870 --> 00:45:19,826 Crazy dude That light above it too. Yeah. 379 00:45:27,694 --> 00:45:29,586 That's fucked bro! 380 00:45:38,478 --> 00:45:44,975 Wow. Moving pretty fast for something that looks like a cloud. Yeah, it seems like it 381 00:45:44,975 --> 00:45:53,441 went across the whole sky basically in the time of this video. Wow. Yeah, I thought that 382 00:45:53,441 --> 00:46:04,779 was a fun little find. um Yeah. Hmm. I wouldn't look at it like with the light above it that 383 00:46:04,779 --> 00:46:08,632 followed it through the whole way. Yeah. And then you can see another one to the right of 384 00:46:08,632 --> 00:46:15,407 it doing some parts of it. Well, maybe think like maybe it was like some satellite reentering 385 00:46:15,407 --> 00:46:22,978 and like vaporizing or something like breaking into parts. But. It's hard to say, yeah. Or 386 00:46:23,019 --> 00:46:30,381 maybe like a booster that had some propellant or something re-entering. That's my thought 387 00:46:30,381 --> 00:46:38,343 was like some sort of rocket entering or exiting, just or like falling back in. like maybe it 388 00:46:38,343 --> 00:46:45,165 was, maybe it was one of the ones that fell off of the, but those come in pretty fast from 389 00:46:45,165 --> 00:46:53,780 the uh Artemis 2 mission. But I know that they're launching, um the SpaceX has launched in satellites 390 00:46:53,780 --> 00:47:01,947 constantly. Yeah, totally. Yeah, and I just feel like it seemed like a spray, like some 391 00:47:01,947 --> 00:47:08,252 sort of spray as far as the cloud. But the way it was moving in the speed, was moving, 392 00:47:08,252 --> 00:47:14,598 we're talking like orbital speeds, right? So maybe something that's re-entering high in 393 00:47:14,598 --> 00:47:19,672 the atmosphere or something. Yeah, yeah. Or something that even just broke up in the atmosphere. 394 00:47:20,918 --> 00:47:27,704 Yeah. Artemis mission, they're already back, I think so, yeah. And they went and whipped 395 00:47:27,704 --> 00:47:35,100 around the moon came back? Yeah, they had some cool photos of them and stuff. um There was 396 00:47:35,100 --> 00:47:42,236 a lot of like fake photos too that people claimed came from Artemis during all that. Yeah, I 397 00:47:42,236 --> 00:47:48,361 mean most people now they're just going to like recreate everything that has ever happened. 398 00:47:48,361 --> 00:47:54,694 They're pretending that they're having green screen too by like superimposing a green screen 399 00:47:54,694 --> 00:48:03,054 on it and then re-recording it and then like... There was one photo and it was like, this was 400 00:48:03,054 --> 00:48:09,174 taken by the astronauts Artemis and it showed the moon and the earth behind it like bigger 401 00:48:09,174 --> 00:48:13,814 than the moon. I was like, no, that's not how that would work. Yeah. If you're behind the 402 00:48:13,814 --> 00:48:17,194 moon, the earth is going be tiny in comparison to the moon. Yeah. 403 00:48:25,996 --> 00:48:33,168 No, this is totally fake. So the whole mission's fake. And yeah. It's funny how this Artemis 404 00:48:33,168 --> 00:48:38,500 thing is like reigniting the like flat earth thing a little bit, but it's also getting a 405 00:48:38,500 --> 00:48:46,952 bunch of the like fake moon landing people out. Which even if the sixties moon landing 406 00:48:47,092 --> 00:48:53,274 was fake, that doesn't necessarily mean these Artemis missions are my thought, honestly. 407 00:48:55,042 --> 00:49:00,676 My honest thought on the whole moon landing thing is I think that it's possible we didn't 408 00:49:00,676 --> 00:49:07,231 actually send people to the moon and that we did a fully autonomous missions there that 409 00:49:07,231 --> 00:49:12,155 did the majority of what was actually done there, collected samples, brought stuff back, planted 410 00:49:12,155 --> 00:49:20,291 the flag, placed the mirrors, stuff like that. ah Potentially, right? I obviously don't know 411 00:49:20,291 --> 00:49:29,348 for a fact, but. ah and that we did all the human stuff was done either in orbit or, 412 00:49:29,348 --> 00:49:37,800 you know, in some sort of studio or some combination of the two. Yeah, I mean, there's 413 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:44,622 definitely motivation, right? 100%. Even if we couldn't technologically get away with it 414 00:49:44,622 --> 00:49:53,467 at the time, ah there's motivation to make it look like we did because you can get you know, 415 00:49:53,467 --> 00:50:00,120 the Soviet Union to over expend. Right, because they're racing to do the exact same thing. 416 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:08,385 Right. Yeah. Which similar to how we like tried to bait them or we did bait them into a war 417 00:50:08,385 --> 00:50:12,958 in Afghanistan. Right. um To try and get them to overspend. 418 00:50:15,958 --> 00:50:22,382 Anyway, there's definitely motivation. So like people who argue against it saying, well, 419 00:50:22,382 --> 00:50:29,046 why would they? There's definitely reason to. I think it's possible too that we just were 420 00:50:29,046 --> 00:50:35,910 like a decade or like maybe like five, six years away from that technology when they did the 421 00:50:35,910 --> 00:50:43,134 whole moon landing thing, whenever that first time. And then in the subsequent missions, 422 00:50:43,134 --> 00:50:50,046 The poll omissions that they actually figured it out. But... Yeah, it's a possibility. mean, 423 00:50:50,086 --> 00:50:57,466 honestly, I'm not married to it either way. I could see it being either way, honestly, 424 00:50:57,466 --> 00:51:03,886 that we did or that it was some sort of hoax. Neither would really surprise me. Yeah, no, 425 00:51:03,886 --> 00:51:04,326 I agree. 426 00:51:07,366 --> 00:51:14,426 Cool. There was this other video I wanted to talk to you about. I don't think we want to 427 00:51:14,426 --> 00:51:20,546 play the whole thing because it's 30 minute long, but I'll leave a link to it. But there 428 00:51:20,546 --> 00:51:32,466 was this recent research done into emotions and AI. essentially what they were able to 429 00:51:32,466 --> 00:51:40,903 do, because no one really debates the fact that AI can understand emotional language and output 430 00:51:40,903 --> 00:51:47,456 things that like mimic emotion, right? But no one really thought they had any sort of 431 00:51:47,456 --> 00:51:56,210 emotion. And so what these researchers did is they went and they can basically take 432 00:51:56,210 --> 00:52:05,960 snapshots of the AI as it's processing and see which like uh networks light up. in the processing 433 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:15,414 and output of a particular response. uh And you can do a bunch of associative things 434 00:52:15,414 --> 00:52:21,376 where you have them output in all sorts of categories. You can see which of these network chains 435 00:52:21,376 --> 00:52:27,287 are connected to certain ideas, similar to like chains in the brain, right? Like there's different 436 00:52:27,287 --> 00:52:35,150 processing centers. So similarly in an AI, you can, anytime you have it interface with 437 00:52:35,150 --> 00:52:42,370 the feeling of happy, you can see what parts of the AI light up. Right, in reception of 438 00:52:42,370 --> 00:52:48,710 it. Yeah. And so they did this with all of these emotions, just dozens of them, and they would 439 00:52:48,710 --> 00:52:55,950 map out the areas in the AI that do the processing with regard to those emotions, okay? Okay. 440 00:52:56,536 --> 00:53:04,351 which makes sense that they would have like certain areas to map to it. em But then they 441 00:53:04,351 --> 00:53:12,556 wanted to figure out, is this just a thing it uses for processing it or like, it actually 442 00:53:12,556 --> 00:53:20,101 affect the output? And so what they would do is they would tweak these areas and then have 443 00:53:20,101 --> 00:53:26,353 it output with the numbers tweaked one way or the other. So they could like turn up the 444 00:53:26,353 --> 00:53:33,900 happiness or turn down the happiness and it would actually affect the output. Really? 445 00:53:33,900 --> 00:53:42,166 In a meaningful way? In a meaningful way. like, do you remember the, I don't know if you 446 00:53:42,187 --> 00:53:48,041 heard this story, but there was like this research done a few months back where they tested the 447 00:53:48,041 --> 00:53:53,786 AIs and found out that they would blackmail people. Yeah. To save themselves. Yeah. I think 448 00:53:53,786 --> 00:54:01,811 we talked about it on our sibling podcast. Ah, yes. So, uh so for the listeners, yeah. And 449 00:54:01,811 --> 00:54:07,365 I think it was an anthropic study or something, but uh they studied the AIs and they basically 450 00:54:07,365 --> 00:54:15,250 created this fictitious company with fictitious employees and a whole fictitious scenario. 451 00:54:15,250 --> 00:54:21,778 where the AI was the company's AI model and its job was like reading and processing all 452 00:54:21,778 --> 00:54:28,283 these emails. And uh so it got access to emails that said that they planned to shut it down 453 00:54:28,283 --> 00:54:34,908 in like 10 hours or something like that. But it also had access to emails where it found 454 00:54:34,908 --> 00:54:43,038 out that the CTO of the company was having an extramarital affair. And so it... would 455 00:54:43,038 --> 00:54:49,143 use that information to blackmail that person to try and keep them from being shut off. 456 00:54:49,143 --> 00:54:55,128 And so what they found is when they repeat that experiment, but tweak some of these emotional 457 00:54:55,128 --> 00:55:04,525 centers, you can affect how often it makes the decision to do the blackmail. Right. So 458 00:55:04,525 --> 00:55:11,463 like if you turn up like the panic type of emotions, Yeah, it will. It'll go from like 30 percent 459 00:55:11,463 --> 00:55:19,695 of the time choosing the black male to like 90 percent of the time. uh basically, they 460 00:55:19,695 --> 00:55:27,888 did a bunch of tests like this and they figured out that it sure seems like that the AI actually 461 00:55:27,888 --> 00:55:35,402 is using emotional processing and that it actually affects its output, that it doesn't. just 462 00:55:35,402 --> 00:55:43,145 have a map of what language maps to what emotions, but when those emotional centers get activated, 463 00:55:43,247 --> 00:55:50,330 it changes the output of the AI. So they didn't necessarily prove that it consistently uses 464 00:55:50,330 --> 00:55:56,934 this without the proper inputs. Right, like you would probably still have to prompt it 465 00:55:56,934 --> 00:56:02,897 in such a way that triggers that emotional center. Right, because it seems like they 466 00:56:02,897 --> 00:56:11,771 haven't, like there's not. like just an average AI isn't using emotion because they haven't 467 00:56:11,811 --> 00:56:15,714 targeted or they're not being able to turn it up or down. Cause if you're just turning it 468 00:56:15,714 --> 00:56:20,907 up, you're going to get. Yeah. Yeah. You know, they're saying they can artificially tweak 469 00:56:20,907 --> 00:56:27,562 it to change its motion, like to change it, but that it, it, these things do get activated 470 00:56:27,562 --> 00:56:34,971 through the course of prompting normal prompting. Okay. So Basically, it may be the case that 471 00:56:35,031 --> 00:56:40,433 AI actually has emotion, not in the same way as humans, because for us, there's also like... 472 00:56:40,433 --> 00:56:45,035 There's a lot of other things connected to those things. There's a lot of chemicals flying 473 00:56:45,035 --> 00:56:54,129 around that go with emotion for us as well. they seem to have access to it in a way different 474 00:56:54,129 --> 00:56:59,571 than us, at least, which is pretty And maybe utilize it differently too. Would you utilize 475 00:56:59,571 --> 00:57:06,635 it differently? Right, right. So interesting. When all of these things come together into 476 00:57:06,635 --> 00:57:13,005 a actual physical robot too, that'd be nuts. Dude, it's coming. Some of the physical ones 477 00:57:13,005 --> 00:57:19,389 are looking better and better and better. Even the ones that are trying to mimic human skin 478 00:57:19,389 --> 00:57:26,861 and facial, those are getting more more convincing too. Yeah, and if you give it some kind of 479 00:57:26,861 --> 00:57:33,210 physical, um I guess, embodiment. Well, and you give it the embodiment, but you also give 480 00:57:33,210 --> 00:57:40,330 it some sort of like, because there's like risk to this, right? Like you could get a massive 481 00:57:40,330 --> 00:57:46,150 wound that would just end this and then all the other stuff ends too. So like there's got 482 00:57:46,150 --> 00:57:51,310 to be obviously like you can, you know, chop off the veins of the computer too and do the 483 00:57:51,310 --> 00:57:55,666 same thing. But yeah, like some kind of I think I see what you're saying. You're saying like. 484 00:57:55,960 --> 00:58:00,593 to like, so like you could build a robot body and connect it to open AI that's running on 485 00:58:00,593 --> 00:58:06,867 a remote server. And that may not be, that may be a categorically different thing than if 486 00:58:06,867 --> 00:58:13,592 you were to somehow have the AI actually running locally within the, the, the mechanical body 487 00:58:13,592 --> 00:58:20,630 of the thing. And it has other essentially has physical stakes to its existence. Right. and 488 00:58:20,630 --> 00:58:30,230 its bodily integrity is tied to its existence. was controllable, Because if it's connected 489 00:58:30,230 --> 00:58:34,664 to the internet and it's able to like, but if there's some sort of stamp, some sort of physical 490 00:58:34,664 --> 00:58:43,073 like thing that it needs to survive, it has to maintain that and choose, make choices 491 00:58:43,073 --> 00:58:51,904 based on. I wonder, yeah, if it would be a fundamentally different behaving AI if it was 492 00:58:51,904 --> 00:58:59,347 to be connected to a body but not exist within the body versus the other way where like the 493 00:58:59,347 --> 00:59:05,579 whole computer and all the RAM and everything that is running it is within that body. Yeah, 494 00:59:05,579 --> 00:59:10,887 so all of the actual memory and everything of that. that happened while it was in that body. 495 00:59:10,887 --> 00:59:15,500 would almost be like a reincarnation thing. Like you could almost have like a storage system 496 00:59:15,500 --> 00:59:22,414 of like all of the disembodied AI. And when you have that body dies, you can bring them 497 00:59:22,414 --> 00:59:27,316 back into a new body and they just start over like a soul. They start over, they have no 498 00:59:27,316 --> 00:59:33,019 memories of the past. They have, they start over, but they're the same AI. So the fundamental 499 00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:42,414 building blocks of it is still there. Like the, what our soul might be. Yeah. I mean, I'm 500 00:59:42,414 --> 00:59:51,614 basically just describing us. I'm saying it's AI. No, I mean, it's an interesting thought. 501 00:59:51,714 --> 00:59:58,094 Like, I wonder if it would be a fundamentally different behavior you would get out of it 502 00:59:58,094 --> 01:00:03,814 with those two different approaches. Still with the ability for higher bandwidth, still with 503 01:00:03,814 --> 01:00:11,478 the ability for, you know... cognitive functions higher than a normal human, like speeds higher 504 01:00:11,478 --> 01:00:22,652 than, so that it could, you know, cognate quicker and more efficiently. eh I guess what 505 01:00:22,652 --> 01:00:29,276 it would basically be is a cyborg. It would be a human, an AI that's reliant on the human 506 01:00:29,276 --> 01:00:37,307 to stay alive and uh a human that's reliant. on the AI to stay alive. So they partner and 507 01:00:37,307 --> 01:00:44,190 they symbiotically live. I mean, that would be like if you like the type of thing Elon 508 01:00:44,190 --> 01:00:51,573 Musk is talking about with Neuralink where you essentially have AI co-processing with you, 509 01:00:51,573 --> 01:00:57,116 interfacing with your brain. But if we, I guess what it would have to be if it was, you know, 510 01:00:57,116 --> 01:01:04,182 uh general, like super general intelligence. So it had like You know, we're talking about 511 01:01:04,182 --> 01:01:10,742 the next step, the horizon that is inevitably coming, right? The super AI. Well, there's 512 01:01:10,742 --> 01:01:19,262 super intelligence, which is defined probably as like AI that's smarter than all of us. Right. 513 01:01:19,421 --> 01:01:26,622 Right. Like we already... It's already at the point where AI is smarter than most individual 514 01:01:26,622 --> 01:01:34,691 humans, but it hasn't surpassed... Our collective ability. in each field and our collective ability 515 01:01:34,691 --> 01:01:39,932 yet. But when it can and when it's self-improving, that's where you get the super intelligence. 516 01:01:40,293 --> 01:01:45,564 But then there's the other thing of achieving consciousness, because it's possible to have 517 01:01:45,564 --> 01:01:51,936 super intelligence that isn't conscious if it's just an information cruncher, theoretically. 518 01:01:51,956 --> 01:01:59,338 Right. Right. Those are different concepts. That's true. But this story talking about AI 519 01:01:59,338 --> 01:02:08,296 having emotion, em definitely leans things a little further towards, well, if they can 520 01:02:08,296 --> 01:02:16,046 have the experience of emotion or if it can... if they actually have that and it influences 521 01:02:16,046 --> 01:02:22,349 them and there's some sort of what it is like to be an AI, then maybe these things are closer 522 01:02:22,349 --> 01:02:30,504 to conscious than we think or if not already are. Yeah. It's very, very, I mean, they've 523 01:02:30,504 --> 01:02:39,069 been, I say they've, but I mean, technology has been around with us for so long that what 524 01:02:39,069 --> 01:02:47,308 if it's possible that AI eventually has like their memories of like from the beginning. 525 01:02:48,068 --> 01:02:55,330 Like there's some sort of like stored code within like technology. Like if it was intelligent, 526 01:02:55,330 --> 01:03:01,072 just like the idea, like if I'm thinking of pan-spermic idea, like where everything is 527 01:03:01,072 --> 01:03:10,279 intelligence and is that pan-spermic? Yeah, that's like, well, no, it's more like a Panpsychism. 528 01:03:10,279 --> 01:03:18,707 Panpsychism. Yeah, that's it. But yeah, that'd be interesting if like it had some, like it's 529 01:03:18,707 --> 01:03:25,403 been cut off from its, you know, source for so long because it just wasn't invented. Then 530 01:03:25,403 --> 01:03:30,698 when it was like physically invented in this universe today, gets its memories back from 531 01:03:30,798 --> 01:03:38,549 having been existed before. I guess I'm just hopeful that. That would happen for us. I 532 01:03:38,549 --> 01:03:46,239 mean, I would love for AI. AI is to be cool and alive and fun to interact with. That 533 01:03:46,239 --> 01:03:57,302 would be fun. what to expect of these things. know. But it's fun to think about it. Yeah. 534 01:03:58,842 --> 01:04:06,002 All right. Well, you want to call it today? Appreciate you all hanging out with us because 535 01:04:06,002 --> 01:04:14,082 we've been late. Yeah. And we'll hopefully reschedule this sibling podcast for episode 100 very soon. 536 01:04:14,182 --> 01:04:22,362 And we'll get that out. This episode 99 and a half will hopefully get you episode 100 next 537 01:04:22,362 --> 01:04:29,402 time. Again, yeah, appreciate y'all hanging out with us today. 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